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    pray for haiti

    but remember that, even when those who move you be kings or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone. When you stand before God you cannot say "but I was told by others to do thus" or that "virtue was not convenient at the time." This will not suffice. Remember that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipton View Post
    Or don't pray if you believe like this (can't think of a nice word):

    Pat Robertson: Haiti 'Cursed' By 'Pact To The Devil' (VIDEO)
    As a user pointed out, I guess the slavery and near extinction of the local people were the "blessings" they were receiving before the revolt.

    You can see when PR makes the devil comment, the host of the show was like what the hell is this guy talking about?
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    Pat Robertson gives Christianity a bad name.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol_121 View Post
    Pat Robertson gives Christianity a bad name.
    Yes he does, but as a non-Christian, I pretty much assumed that from the start. Although the size of his following or that fact that he is allowed to continue to spread these lies does bother me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tegraphile View Post
    Yes he does, but as a non-Christian, I pretty much assumed that from the start. Although the size of his following or that fact that he is allowed to continue to spread these lies does bother me.
    at least his "followers" aren't smuggling explosives onto planes in their underpants

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkie View Post
    at least his "followers" aren't smuggling explosives onto planes in their underpants
    Not yet. Just killing doctors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkie View Post
    at least his "followers" aren't smuggling explosives onto planes in their underpants
    Ah, so PR is the good guy on this one and the Haitians did deserve to die.

    I can always count in your lack of perspective to get the job done.
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    No. Ark is using the "He isn't doing X, Y and Z which are bad. So what he is doing must be good" moral argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tegraphile View Post
    Ah, so PR is the good guy on this one and the Haitians did deserve to die.

    I can always count in your lack of perspective to get the job done.
    I must have missed the part where PR said the Haitians deserved to die?

    He did say he thought they should turn to God...I know that bothers you, but we're all entitled to our own beliefs (religious and otherwise). His history was a little off, and I'm of the opinion that if you don't have a solid understanding of something, you shouldn't speak on it. BUT I think it's pretty obvious who's at fault in this case....it isn't PR....it isn't GWB....it isn't BHO....it isn't capitalism....it isn't voodoo or satanic curses.....it's TYRANNY. Haiti has been governed by dictators since its inception...and so the people there have never been free to prosper. So now they're screwed...they have no infrastructure...no hospitals...no medical providers...no emergency response teams...they're forced to sit and wait for someone to come to their rescue, which I think is heart-breaking. There are injured survivors dying there today because of TYRANNY.

    BTW, where's the greatest healthcare system in the world (Cuba) when you need them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkie View Post
    I must have missed the part where PR said the Haitians deserved to die?
    No. You just didn't understand the implication: you make a "pact with the devil" = you deserve to die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkie View Post
    I must have missed the part where PR said the Haitians deserved to die?

    He did say he thought they should turn to God...I know that bothers you, but we're all entitled to our own beliefs (religious and otherwise). His history was a little off, and I'm of the opinion that if you don't have a solid understanding of something, you shouldn't speak on it. BUT I think it's pretty obvious who's at fault in this case....it isn't PR....it isn't GWB....it isn't BHO....it isn't capitalism....it isn't voodoo or satanic curses.....it's TYRANNY. Haiti has been governed by dictators since its inception...and so the people there have never been free to prosper. So now they're screwed...they have no infrastructure...no hospitals...no medical providers...no emergency response teams...they're forced to sit and wait for someone to come to their rescue, which I think is heart-breaking. There are injured survivors dying there today because of TYRANNY.

    BTW, where's the greatest healthcare system in the world (Cuba) when you need them?
    Some valid points about tyranny. Unfortunately, none of these points were brought up by PR.

    What he did state was the Haitian "pact to the devil" has "cursed" the people, which includes earthquakes. And that part, you cannot justify.

    And feel free to cite any of my 1,400+ posts where I said that turning to God is a bothersome comment. What I did say is following someone who uses hateful rhetoric bothers me, regardless of religion.

    PR is a bigot. What is there to argue?
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