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Old 05-06-2008, 12:19 AM
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Global Warming Hoax

All the nonsense being spread about Global Warming might just be that, nonsense. There is another theory of Global Cooling, another climate trend in the opposite direction. In fact, Greenland was once a warm temperate land where the Vikings once lived. In the 12th Century, the island went through a period of climate change where it became a frozen wasteland, many of the Vikings moved across the ocean to what is now Scandinavia.

Global warming or global cooling?-All That Matters-Sunday Specials-Opinion-The Times of India
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:45 PM
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Hey George,

That's not the only article that came out against this global warming crap. Several pieces how Al Gore is being sued for fraud by the weather channel owner and other opinion pieces how this trend is more politically and financially minded, that it would hurt people to think the other way since they would lose their jobs.
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hey all the noise about religion might only be nonsense too. no one requires proof of that.
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Old 05-12-2008, 08:26 PM
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I can tell you God is very real, I nearly met him. In my part of the world the weather has actually gotten colder. Climate change is happening, but in which direction we do not really know. That movie which came out a few years ago describe a new Ice Age.
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I can tell you God is very real, I nearly met him. In my part of the world the weather has actually gotten colder. Climate change is happening, but in which direction we do not really know. That movie which came out a few years ago describe a new Ice Age.
You actually nearly met G-d?? Really? Well, if that is your thing, good for you, however it still is anecdotal evidence, your experience does not prove it at all, it might as well be a psychological effect, your mind saw what you wanted to see, it experienced what your wanted to feel, highly influenced by a religious conviction, same happens with people who believe in Lord Krishna, the different Kami's in certain Mountain regions of Japan, Catholic saints, demons, Lucifer, Satan, etc. Which by the way, makes Christianity a dualistic religion. So, how many supreme beings are out there? I may say that the same validity you want to give to your version of a supreme being it should be given to other faiths, reason why....there is no proof, just a question of faith, faith cannot be proved, but it is not a basis to conclude to a degree of certainty the existence of any gods. Also, if in fact there is a supreme entity out there, it must be very dissapointed with the crappy job we have done throughout history in his name...Inquisitions, Holy Wars in the Torah, Islamic conquer by force, countered by a Crusade, witch hunting and burning, how many millions have died in the process? I personally don't need that.

Not to be a cynic but I hear that line so many time from prison inmates, they always meet the lord in prison. Strange place to meet him/her I guess.
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You actually nearly met G-d?? Really? Well, if that is your thing, good for you, however it still is anecdotal evidence, your experience does not prove it at all, it might as well be a psychological effect, your mind saw what you wanted to see, it experienced what your wanted to feel, highly influenced by a religious conviction, same happens with people who believe in Lord Krishna, the different Kami's in certain Mountain regions of Japan, Catholic saints, demons, Lucifer, Satan, etc. Which by the way, makes Christianity a dualistic religion. So, how many supreme beings are out there? I may say that the same validity you want to give to your version of a supreme being it should be given to other faiths, reason why....there is no proof, just a question of faith, faith cannot be proved, but it is not a basis to conclude to a degree of certainty the existence of any gods. Also, if in fact there is a supreme entity out there, it must be very dissapointed with the crappy job we have done throughout history in his name...Inquisitions, Holy Wars in the Torah, Islamic conquer by force, countered by a Crusade, witch hunting and burning, how many millions have died in the process? I personally don't need that.

Not to be a cynic but I hear that line so many time from prison inmates, they always meet the lord in prison. Strange place to meet him/her I guess.
The next Crusade is almost a guarantee, instead of swords, it will be bullets and bombs, and it won't even involve the USA. It will be a European power fighting against an Islamic one. It will also be very one sided, with the Europeans largely smashing its southern neighbor into pieces.
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The world is currently warming and has been for many years. There is plenty of proof for that. Just look at pictures of Glacier National Park in Montana over the last 50 years. The question is; how much influence has man had on the warming, and how much is just natural cycles of the earth? ( I suspect a little bit of both)

It is predicted that due to the continents continual movement, and changing of the ocean currents (which act as the earth's thermostat), the earth will see another Ice Age in about 3 thousand years. All of Canada will be frozen as well as New York City. Luckily I still have some time to move south.
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while your inside track on these things is interesting to say the least, please stick with the original topic of global warming, which at least submitts itself to scientific investigation.
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Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh | The Australian

'Forget global warming, prepare for Ice Age' | NEWS.com.au

Globe may be cooling on Global Warming | ScrippsNews
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And on Wednesday, the respected journal, Nature, indicated that Earth's climactic cycles have stopped global warming through 2015.
Global warming may 'stop', scientists predict - Telegraph

Is the earth getting warmer, or cooler? | The Register
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Both of the satellite data sources, as well as Had-Crut, show worldwide temperatures falling below the IPCC estimates. Satellite data shows temperatures near or below the 30 year average - but NASA data has somehow managed to stay on track towards climate Armageddon. You can draw your own conclusions, but I see a pattern that is troublesome. In science, as with any other endeavour, it is always a good idea to have some separation between the people generating the data and the people interpreting it.
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