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Old 02-05-2008, 11:34 PM
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So I am supposed to say touche...you got me. Well my friend, The cuts to health care began with Clinton and Bush is only appeal to Ted Kennedy by cutting a few dollars from Medicare. I think the idea of personal accounts for hard workers to set aside money for their own health care is the answer. Do you want to rely on Medicare for your profit in health care? You're probably Canadian anyway blabbering like Neil Young about how much you hate our country. I only assumed you were since you assumed I did not live through the prosperity this country experienced with Reagan.
Not Canadian, wrong assumption, and I am still assuming (yes assuming)you did not lived under the Reagan years, maybe yes, as a kid, your parents gave you everything and you find it prosperous (still an assumption). I served in the USCG for the first half of the 1980's, and when I became a civilian I did not find them prosperous at all, not for me or my family. Did I said I hate the USA? Quote me where I said that, cut and paste it and post it, otherwise don't put words that I never said, agreed?
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:35 PM
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Obama is a sheep in wolves clothing with the third most liberal voting record in congress.
when has he ever passed himself off as anything short of being a liberal???

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Does it ever happen that delegates who have been mandated for one candidate in a state primary vote for another at the convention? Thanks.
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hillary makes me puke as well, and im from ny
i am as well. my vote doesn't really count in NY since whoever Dem is picked, all of the electoral votes will go to but at least i'll be a little happy that they won't be going to Hillary. hopefully she goes back to Arkansas
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i can honestly say, this is one exciting primary. i went to bed last night and i wake up and it doesnt look like things are decided yet. bring on round 2.....3, 4 and maybe 5 ....... this can go out into may

upcoming schedule of primaries

republican:
Louisiana02/09 Washington02/09 Kansas02/09 Virginia02/12 Maryland02/12 District of Columbia02/12 Wisconsin02/19 Texas03/04 Ohio03/04 Rhode Island03/04 Vermont03/04 Mississippi03/10 Pennsylvania04/22 North Carolina05/06 Indiana05/06 Nebraska05/13 Hawaii05/16 Kentucky05/20 Oregon05/20 Idaho05/27 New Mexico06/03 South Dakota06/03

democrats:
Washington02/09 Louisiana02/09 Nebraska02/09 Maine02/10 Virginia02/12 Maryland02/12 District of Columbia02/12
Wisconsin02/19 Hawaii02/19 Texas03/04 Ohio03/04 Rhode Island03/04 Vermont03/04 Wyoming03/08 Mississippi03/10 Pennsylvania04/22 North Carolina05/06 Indiana05/06 West Virginia05/13 Oregon05/20 Kentucky05/20 Montana06/03 South Dakota06/03
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:33 AM
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i am as well. my vote doesn't really count in NY since whoever Dem is picked, all of the electoral votes will go to but at least i'll be a little happy that they won't be going to Hillary. hopefully she goes back to Arkansas
well, you knew NY was going to be hillary in the primary. hopefully obama can knock her out in the next few batches of primaries. i think he has the momentum because he was not expected by her to be this close.
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:12 AM
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caption this picture in your head
this was from the debate

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Blaming/Giving Credit to a government/branch of government for national economic growth/loss has to be one of the most idiotic concepts around.

Now laying some blame/credit on the military, industrial, (congressional) complex would make much more sense to me: guns or butter. And THEN tying it to politics would at least be plausible.

Or are we really going to give Pres. Clinton credit for the single largest economic boom in recent history? Who should we blame for the bubble bursting? Which branch of government should we blame for the mortgage debacle?
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Blaming/Giving Credit to a government/branch of government for national economic growth/loss has to be one of the most idiotic concepts around.

Now laying some blame/credit on the military, industrial, (congressional) complex would make much more sense to me: guns or butter. And THEN tying it to politics would at least be plausible.

Or are we really going to give Pres. Clinton credit for the single largest economic boom in recent history? Who should we blame for the bubble bursting? Which branch of government should we blame for the mortgage debacle?
this is very true...you step into any higher level economics class and one of the first things they say is that the president/government cannot control the economy. it doesn't matter who's in power - it goes up, it goes down, it comes to a stand still blah blah blah. i'm not a big fan of Bush or Clinton but to actually say they had much to do with the way the economy is crazy.
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I think the state of the US economy these days is also affected by what happens outside our borders, there is significant economic activity outside of the US, and this is increasing demand for energy and energy prices, especially when you put Asia into the picture, with billions of people, even if the average Chinese or Indian only has a fraction of the income of an American because there are so many of them they have much bigger effect on the world.

Energy is crucial to how we live, in Europe gas is $9US a gallon, so you don't see too many SUVs, most people live in apartments or smaller homes. In the US and Canada, we can afford have a bigger house and car because energy prices are relatively less expensive than other places, the only problem now is that our energy supply is now becoming more scarce so that is going to change our way of life.

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