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Old 08-16-2007, 11:44 AM
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Police state means big brother is watching you and controlling what you do, not necessarily the police as we know it. We have CIA, NSA, IRS that does more or less the same. Besides, it is quite obvious that the world is NOT a safe place with one so called 'super power". I miss the cold war years, I miss them.
And next your going to tell me the gov... has Q files on all of us. Even if the gov... is watching, you have to be guilty of something before they can do anything to you. And if they frame it doesn't matter anyway, since then the gov... would be corrupt. Then you fall back on your secret Swiss bank account and run like the wind. Or you could be Jason Bourne, but then he's talented and has amnesia so he has nothing to lose.
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:46 AM
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The US recently put together an agreement with India to help that country improve its ability to use nuclear energy, the Indians will probably use this as an opportunity to also modernize their nuclear weapons which is not a good development but some are banking that India will be a hedge against China.
The country barely had it's 60th peaceful independance day and everyone's already planning for it to be the last stronghold against china...
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IDMC : Internal Displacement Monitoring Centre | Countries | Turkey | Killings and attacks by gendarmerie also discourage return (2005): “In addition to security concerns arising from the village guard system, attacks on civilians by the gendarmerie discourage return. Three unlawful killings by security forces in late 2004, underscored the continued potential for lethal state violence against civilians in general, and IDPs in particular."

That is from a human rights organization.

From the gendarmerie site:
"Force military and great public utility, the national gendarmerie puts her competence at the service of the safety of the people and the goods on the whole of the own territory and takes part, at the sides of the armies on the external theatres of operations, with missions of maintenance of peace and restoration of the state of right."

See they're the clean up squad and defense of civilians.

I think I'll go join the gendarmerie, the get to ride horses!!!!!!!!!!!
When you set off to join the Gendarmerie make sure you orientate yourself correctly. In particular please remember to stop when you get to Paris, France; do not continue some 1400 miles to Istanbul,Turkey. Wikipedia will of course have explained to you that gendarmerie is a also a generic term and that this style and structure of police force has been copied widely.
You will have seen on the Gendarmerie website that they are responsible for a huge range of normal civil police duties indeed in many parts of the country they are the civil police that you are most likely to see and deal with. They are far from just "the military force responsible for airport security, certain buildings like the ministry ones, and security of certain public buildings like banks."
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IDMC : Internal Displacement Monitoring Centre | Countries | Turkey | Killings and attacks by gendarmerie also discourage return (2005): “In addition to security concerns arising from the village guard system, attacks on civilians by the gendarmerie discourage return. Three unlawful killings by security forces in late 2004, underscored the continued potential for lethal state violence against civilians in general, and IDPs in particular."

That is from a human rights organization.

From the gendarmerie site:
"Force military and great public utility, the national gendarmerie puts her competence at the service of the safety of the people and the goods on the whole of the own territory and takes part, at the sides of the armies on the external theatres of operations, with missions of maintenance of peace and restoration of the state of right."

See they're the clean up squad and defense of civilians.

I think I'll go join the gendarmerie, the get to ride horses!!!!!!!!!!!
What does Turkey have to do with France?
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And next your going to tell me the gov... has Q files on all of us. Even if the gov... is watching, you have to be guilty of something before they can do anything to you. And if they frame it doesn't matter anyway, since then the gov... would be corrupt. Then you fall back on your secret Swiss bank account and run like the wind. Or you could be Jason Bourne, but then he's talented and has amnesia so he has nothing to lose.
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When you set off to join the Gendarmerie make sure you orientate yourself correctly. In particular please remember to stop when you get to Paris, France; do not continue some 1400 miles to Istanbul,Turkey. Wikipedia will of course have explained to you that gendarmerie is a also a generic term and that this style and structure of police force has been copied widely.
You will have seen on the Gendarmerie website that they are responsible for a huge range of normal civil police duties indeed in many parts of the country they are the civil police that you are most likely to see and deal with. They are far from just "the military force responsible for airport security, certain buildings like the ministry ones, and security of certain public buildings like banks."
well... I didn't kno it had to be gendarmerie only in Paris. It was French gendarmerie in Turkey. I still think it's not lawful for them to shoot civilians. They're not the civil police!! And your site is their homepage or something and they're not going to badmouth themselves on their own website.

"Force military and great public utility, the national gendarmerie puts her competence at the service of the safety of the people and the goods on the whole of the own territory and takes part, at the sides of the armies on the external theatres of operations, with missions of maintenance of peace and restoration of the state of right."

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I do my secret banking in Andorra
There's a country named Andorra?!? Why there?
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Rose you are *****, if you do not know where Andorra is, especially *****. Andorra is between France and Spain. Oh for the record, I switched all my savings to a combination of Euros, Gold, and Aussie Dollars since 2002.

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I'll second that emotion. No they were not French gendarmes operating in Turkey. And the point was that contrary to what you ever so knowledgeably declared the function of the Gendarmerie in France is not just anti-terrorism and the other things you mentioned. They are very much involved in normal policing. They may be controlled by the Ministry of Defence but despite that they have a huge role in civil policing. That's why I suggested you go back to wiki: most of that was plainly there! As for this imaginary law.....
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:30 PM
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I'll second that emotion. No they were not French gendarmes operating in Turkey. And the point was that contrary to what you ever so knowledgeably declared the function of the Gendarmerie in France is not just anti-terrorism and the other things you mentioned. They are very much involved in normal policing. They may be controlled by the Ministry of Defence but despite that they have a huge role in civil policing. That's why I suggested you go back to wiki: most of that was plainly there! As for this imaginary law.....
right... i don't even remember why i started on French police. I was thinking about Karl Rove and then somehow I started talking about French police. Maybe I was being ornery. I'm not an idiot although i'm feeling very pineappleish today. Actually I do remember something about Andorra. There was a simpson's episode something to do with it and PBS did something about them have low taxes. I'm not pretending, but I've learned a lesson to now ignore my french teacher. Are aussie dollars as profitable as gold and euros?
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