the reporter didnt even do enuf research to get the "banned" (incorrect terminology) schools and states correct (but i guess it was close enuf) but like i said, her story wouldnt sell (main purpose of the article) if it was about some u.s. grad from harvard med who did the same residency as this offshore grad and making the same medical error and implying it somehow was harvards fault.


thats the whole purpose of the article, so i guess it worked

i totally agree that we can all benefit from a better screening of offshore schools, but i disagree that this unfortunate case that this reporter exploited is related to that fact. even if this doc went to a u.s. school, did his clinical training in the same or similar hospital (most likely in the u.s.), than did the same or similar anesthesiology training (most likely in a u.s. residency program), the outcome might have been just as devastating (and happens more than we'd like to think). but would it get an article or all this attention? probably not.

yes this guy screwed up bad. yes u.s. grads screw up this bad and worse much more frequently. but in both cases, i think it has less to do with the med school training and more to do with the residency training and health care system. but maybe i'm wrong. whatever the case may be, i still agree that better med school evaluations are needed and i also think that we need to find out where the problems r so that we can take better care of pts and help prevent some of these tragedies from happening.

peace

2 things:

1. They did release a study about which schools have the most disciplined graduates. The report was scolding of a couple US schools as well as a few foriegn. However, at that time, the LCME and other refused to admit that poor medical school teaching had anything to do with the amount of disciplinary action taken against a graduate. They said that there was no way to correlate the two. This article was posted here a while ago, maybe someone can help us find it.

2. That article (map really) says that AUC and St. George are banned in Idaho. Whats up with that? Is the whole "can be licensed in every state" thing not really true?

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LOL. Funny, that coming from you.

I'll see what I can find out, but to my knowledge we have grads in all 50 states.

This is their newsletter:

http://www.bom.state.id.us/about/Nwsltr090303.pdf

First article says they have been accepting students from "unapproved schools". I think this is another rule like indiana where they reserve the right to deny you a license based on where you went to school, but they can also grant you licensure. G

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Hello,
I read the article, and found it to be VERY flawed and innacurate on many levels. The writer of the article obviously has no clue into the process of how somebody becomes a doctor.
As to the story of the anesthesiologist who intubated the esophagus instead of the trachea, How the hell can one conclude that it was the medical school that did it?? A little reminder, you are taught to intubate DURING RESIDENCY, NOT MEDCAL SCHOOL. It is also during residncy, that you are taught to look at the end-tidal CO2 to make sure you intubated correctly. None of this has aything to do with medical school.
If all this talk, how come no mention is made of the RESIDENCY that graduated an anesthesiologist who did not check the end-tidal CO2 monitor (something that is fundamental and BASIC to ANY anesthesioogist and anyone who has worked with a vent).
While medical school DOES contribute to your knowledge base on some level (you forget 60-70% of the stuff you learned in med school), the training that ultimately MOLDS you into the practicioner that you are is your RESIDENCY TRAINING
(CAN I GET A WITNESS REVEREND DURST??...amen)

It seems as if the ulterior motive of the article writer is to bash foreign schools. Hardly any mention is made of the US grads that screw up..remember the wrong leg cut off in Tampa back in 1994?? that was a US grad. Check the discipline files of any state medical board, and you will see just as many US grads getting busted for different things.

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Actually it is part of a series they are doing.....don't read it myself to be only about foreign md's but rather on the system that oversees doctors...

az skeptic

Agreed, Brother Sampson. Residency is responsible for teaching you how to intubate and all the other procedures you can learn. Sometimes people get cocky and don't whip out the stethascope to listen for bilat breath sounds. It is simple enough. It isn't that the guy was undereducated, he was likely negligent. G

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How do I contact the writer? I'll be writing him/her.

this confirms his quackery!

This article was shocking This just goes to show you that you really need to research the school(s) that you are interested in...