hey there folks, im a second year of the six year program in poznan.

Now, im not entirely too sure of the specifics of the situation with the dorms, particularly becuase i dont really pay all that much attention to it (I live in one myself, Medyk!)

From my experience, its not simply that people dont care, but that when it really comes down to it, the school really doesnt do that much for us other than provide the education and give us our degrees. This also means that we have to tend to our applying for our own electives, preparing ourselves for the USMLE, applying ourselves for the USMLE, among a whole slew of other things.

There are alot of benefits and snafus were all going to run into out here when it comes to a cheaper, shorter, foreign education. But all of you in the dorms will be fine.

Like it was mentioned, there are lots of Modern apartments that are very much ready to live in that are available to us, with pretty decent prices from what I hear. I personally might be looking into it myself when I feel its OK for me to move out and feel comfortable.

It all up to you. The sharred dorming in Medyk and Asp. is a new thing to me, and its not going to be without its problems.

But I also believe its really going to help people acclimate themselves to the Polish atmosphere and way of doing things. It will also help from feeling lonely. And Ill tell you, the winter time out there can be pretty damn lonely unless you make some decent friends.

There is a tremondous lack of communication between the school and students. But its as they say, "it all just kinda works out, ya know?"

the best advice I can give, is to go with the flow out there.

And staying on topic, the best advice i can give is to keep your options open and be patient. See how it all works out. If you need to, you can always move into an apartment with affordable rates, there are always signs and posts up at the dorm bullatin boards.

Good luck, and email or IM me on AIM or MSN messenger if u need any help!

my email is Mithx13@hotmail.com

and my AOL screen name is Mithx13

It's called fraud and misrepresentation. "Going with the flow" sounds a lot like "sucking it up".

As you say you have a single and you might move out when you "feel comfortable" -- freshmen should be given the same opportunity. And yes doubling up is appropriate for most 6 year MD Program students like yourself. It is not appropriate for the 4 year MD Program.

The problem seems to be created by poor planning -- I guess they really didn't think they'd fill all the seats and the fact that 3rd & 4th year students have not been moving out. Since they apparently had a shortage of rooms last year and put students up at a hotel I think they should have seen this coming and it could have been prevented. Why are they locating extra hotel space for the students this year?

I'm sure it will affect the choise of a lot of applicants for 2007-2008. A lot of people attribute this incident as the "Polish way of doing things", but I think that is misleading, not all Polish universities are attracting students with fraud and misrepresentation, or putting them in a bind.

Fraud and misrepresentation are characteristics of a particular type of people and corporations who may or not be Polish.

I have an easy fix for you....................don't bother coming here. Go somewhere else............the grass will be greener. Do widzenia i powodzenia.

What do you mean, sharing is ok for 6yr ppl and not 4? lol.

Ill be in the 6yr, (done a bachelors- but dont have enough physics/chem).

Narcan,

Sounds like the same solution you provided before.

If I'd known earlier I wouldn't be coming there. Unfortunately they've got my money -- and deposit was to them not a perhaps more worthy university. If I'm lucky I can transfer next year, in the meantime I do have a right to make a statement and make sure future enrolled students are aware of ALL the issues. Sorry, I don't like to gloss things over, or pretend they don't exist because reality goes along way.

In the meantime keeping people aware of how the administration operates may prevent more people like me from applying and than indeed your grass will be a different color. Or, better yet maybe the administration will get the idea that lying is not a good thing and they might improve.

I'm not into making colleges look good to improve peoples perception of the college I go too.

Fuzpot,

That is why I said "most". I do realize that some six years are older students, however the majority are not. And as mentioned before American colleges quite often do not put high school graduates in singles exactly because a lot of them do not do well living alone.

I've never tried to paint a rosy picture here. I have no problem telling you that living in Poland is not fun. I will tell you the school can help you reach your goal of becoming a physician. As far as providing nice USA style living it will not. I really don't think any school in Eastern Europe will seem like the US. I can tell from your posts that you are going to have a rough ride here. I'm not sure you will be happy in any Polish school. Transfers are not usually a great idea, but do what you like.

And I agree I think your idea that 6 year people can double, but 4 year people can't is way out of line. Seems you feel 6 year people are inferior to you.

i dont think he meant they're inferior. he just assumed they're younger than the 4 year program students.

Narcan,

Why would I want a school in Poland to be like a school in the U.S.? I've lived in foreign countries before. I enjoy different cultures and I have a very good idea of what Poland is like. Don't try to make the issue about me. The issue is about a university misrepresenting itself and setting students up to fail.

As regards the 4 yr vs 6 yr comment -- reread the posts, one might think you are trying to mislead people who have not read them. Why would anyone be inferior to anyone else? This is the 21st Century.

The best marketing tool any school can use is its students. If they want to attract and keep good students they have to support them. I think this is a show of nonsupport. Medical school is intense, or should be, they are setting a lot of students up to fail by refusing to provide adequate housing. The post I have read in this forum indicate a lot of learning at Poznan University of Medical Science (Karol Marcinkowski) is on your own -- to me that underscores the desire for quiet, adequate study space.

Good luck in your studies!! I can see this is a pointless debate. I need to get back to my studies. Usmle in 11 days.