In response to the statement about not being able to switch from the 6 year program to the 4 year, that is untrue. There is a girl in my class (I'm in year 1 of the 4 year program) who started out last year in the 6 year program and then she switched over and started the 4 year program with us this year.

Regarding the others who were not able to switch over, I cannot speak on their behalf.. However, I know that the girl who did switch over had all but one of her prerequesites finished for the 4 year program before she entered the 6 year program. So, that may have been a factor for the reason why the others weren't allowed, but I'm not certain.

Regarding the potential problems with switching programs and whether not having a BSc will be a problem, I'm not really sure if that will have an affect or not, as it pertains to residency and licensure. I would check with the state boards where you want to practice as a pre-caution.

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Class of 2008, 4yr MD
Poznan University of Medical Sciences
Poznan, Poland

Student Website: www.poznanmedicine.org

University Website: www.ump.edu.pl

NY Admissions Office Website: www.mdprogram.com

"Dispel from your mind the thought that an understanding of the human body in every aspect of its structure can be given in words..."

- Leonardo da Vinci

Residency programs couldn't care less how many times you have switched programs as long as you are ECFMG certified.
As a resident you are a continuing student and more importantly for the programs,CHEAP LABOR. They couoldn't care what happens with you when you finish the program any more than the EE english program you graduate from. Check with local state medical boards as it is the government beurocrats who ultimately decide your fate...and as I said previously, they like a nice boring traditional route to a medical education. The more you manipulate your educational track, the more problems you are likely to have. Not before or during residency but AFTER residency when you need that license.

I am not saying it can't be done because many people transfer all over the place, just do it cautiously and after you have been fully briefed by a medical board rep in the state you want to practice.

Just to let everyone know, PUMS has officially announced that they are allowing students of the 4-year English program to complete their entire 4th year of elective rotations abroad. So, we're no longer limited to just 16 weeks.

A word of caution: Check with the state boards where you wish to peform residency and/or gain licensure to insure that you will be compliant, should you decide to take advantage of the new policy.

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Class of 2008, 4yr MD
Poznan University of Medical Sciences
Poznan, Poland

Student Website: www.poznanmedicine.org

University Website: www.ump.edu.pl

NY Admissions Office Website: www.mdprogram.com

"Dispel from your mind the thought that an understanding of the human body in every aspect of its structure can be given in words..."

- Leonardo da Vinci

Hey,

Which states don't accept the MD degree from Poznan, I heard California, but are there any others??? This more or less refers to the 6 year md program.


Justin

Hey, easy on the double posting.. Just kidding.. But, I did post an answer regarding your question here:

http://www.valuemd.com/ftopic2538-0-asc-90.html

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Class of 2008, 4yr MD
Poznan University of Medical Sciences
Poznan, Poland

Student Website: www.poznanmedicine.org

University Website: www.ump.edu.pl

NY Admissions Office Website: www.mdprogram.com

"Dispel from your mind the thought that an understanding of the human body in every aspect of its structure can be given in words..."

- Leonardo da Vinci

Hello all - I'm new. I just got accepted last week to the 4 yr program (yay!!! ), and I'm looking for info about KMU on the web.

Just a few questions...

How selective is the admissions committee? Does anyone know how 'hard' it is to gain an acceptance to the 4 yr program? How many students apply? How many get interviews? How many gain acceptance?

My experience was relatively easy (not that I'm complaining), but it piqued my curiosity. Is KMU a recognized and respected institution in the states?

Any words of wisdom for new students? Thanks!! 8)

Hi,

In the US nobody gets into medical school, but everyone makes it through. Here everybody gets in, but no everyone makes it through. I think that sums it up.

Bye........Gerry

Provided you meet the admissions criteria, you should have no problem getting accepting into the 4-year program. Alternatively, if you don't meet the admissions criteria, then the 6-year program is always an option. You won't get any admissions statistics here, so you're better off contacting the admissions office; however, I doubt you'll have much luck there because my guess is they don't collect or share that type of information. Welcome to Poland.

I think Gerry said it best about acceptance and success rates for U.S. medical schools and PUMS, or virtually all Central European medical schools, for that matter. That is, they'll give just about anyone the opportunity to study medicine here, but you have to be able to meet the demands of the program just like you would in the U.S. Since they're not nearly as selective as med schools in the U.S., then you can see why the attrition rate is so high.

PUMS is definitely recognized in the U.S. because we have licensed graduates in many states. Is the school well-recognized or respected? Most likely not, because most people in the U.S. probably can't even tell you where Poland is. But don't let that deter you. I was really apprehensive about coming here, but I'm completely satisfied with my choice and the fact that the school is making steps (albeit it baby ones) to improve the program in areas where they can. Come here with an open mind, loads of patience and a great work ethic, and you'll do just fine.

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Class of 2008, 4yr MD
Poznan University of Medical Sciences
Poznan, Poland

Student Website: www.poznanmedicine.org

University Website: www.ump.edu.pl

NY Admissions Office Website: www.mdprogram.com

"Dispel from your mind the thought that an understanding of the human body in every aspect of its structure can be given in words..."

- Leonardo da Vinci

I totally agree with this and have said it many times:

"I'm completely satisfied with my choice and the fact that the school is making steps (albeit it baby ones) to improve the program in areas where they can. Come here with an open mind, loads of patience and a great work ethic, and you'll do just fine."

I was just wondering - how good do Poles know English? For instance - during clinical classes on wards how often do patients know English and students can examine patients without any help in translation by teachers?