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Old 05-18-2005, 05:44 PM
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i never

i never demeaned yoru school..just stated the facts..it is YOU who demeaned my school by saying this and that and i supported my school with facts..you may know a ..used to goto school there..he lived the city..he said the classes are ALL based on old exams..he is now at Saba..where have your 4th years matched this year..i can provide a list of mine if you would like..

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Old 05-18-2005, 05:51 PM
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Re: i never

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i never demeaned yoru school..just stated the facts..it is YOU who demeaned my school by saying this and that and i supported my school with facts..you may know ..used to goto school there..he lived the city..he said the classes are ALL based on old exams..he is now at Saba..where have your 4th years matched this year..i can provide a list of mine if you would like..
I demeaned your school? I don't even know what school you went to.. Please, tell me where I said anything about your school....

I said one thing negative about HMI, which is true, and I will stand by it. They lied pointblank to me about a placement fee; however, when the acceptance letter came I saw a nice little additional fee of $7000.

Grow up. I'm not going to get a list of 4th years and where they matched. You're wasting my time, and quite honestly do not concern me.
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Old 05-18-2005, 05:53 PM
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What does this inflammatory quote imply? "you are still new to this game..i am a seasoned veteran.."

What are you a seasoned veteran at? Bashing schools and trolling. I have no reason to promote my school. I gain nothing from it.
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Old 05-18-2005, 05:55 PM
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Thanks for bringing up a very good point

I feel that this debate has introduced a few interesting questions and concerns to individuals wishing to attend a foreign school, and now readers might be skeptical enough to write the schools themselves to get certain points. However, it is silly at this point to quarral over such points, because if someone IS in fact lying (or just misinformed), I see no resolution on this post. We are all in the spectrum of moderately to highly intelligent here and highly to even more highly egotistical...meaning we do not like to be argued with by faceless names. It reaches a certain testosterone high that makes any valid points which are made meaningless. Most likely though, I will call/write Poznan, Warsaw and Krakow tomorrow to verify the affiliations.
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Old 05-18-2005, 05:58 PM
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well put

well put Kerouac170..i hope all your dreams come true..by the way..Warsaw is beautifull...if you ever go, contact me and i will tell you what places to hit..take care..
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Old 05-18-2005, 05:59 PM
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Re: Thanks for bringing up a very good point

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I feel that this debate has introduced a few interesting questions and concerns to individuals wishing to attend a foreign school, and now readers might be skeptical enough to write the schools themselves to get certain points. However, it is silly at this point to quarral over such points, because if someone IS in fact lying (or just misinformed), I see no resolution on this post. We are all in the spectrum of moderately to highly intelligent here and highly to even more highly egotistical...meaning we do not like to be argued with by faceless names. It reaches a certain testosterone high that makes any valid points which are made meaningless. Most likely though, I will call/write Poznan, Warsaw and Krakow tomorrow to verify the affiliations.
I would suggest you contact the affiliated universities and/or teaching hospitals, as well, just as a precaution.

Also, from the school website, here are a list of affiliated universities:

http://www.amp.edu.pl/eng/index.php?...7&test=x7x

Again, best to call them for verification.
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i agree

and please ask for a COPY of the agreement..do nto take anyone's word for it because their word is meaningless with out actual documentation..have them fax, or mail you a copy of the official agreement..this is what i did in the past..take care all..
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Old 05-18-2005, 06:04 PM
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Re: Thanks for bringing up a very good point

[quote="Kerouac170"]I feel that this debate has introduced a few interesting questions and concerns to individuals wishing to attend a foreign school, and now readers might be skeptical enough to write the schools themselves to get certain points. However, it is silly at this point to quarral over such points, because if someone IS in fact lying (or just misinformed), I see no resolution on this post. We are all in the spectrum of moderately to highly intelligent here and highly to even more highly egotistical...meaning we do not like to be argued with by faceless names. It reaches a certain testosterone high that makes any valid points which are made meaningless. Most likely though, I will call/write Poznan, Warsaw and Krakow tomorrow to verify the affiliations.[/quote]

Great!! Best idea I have heard yet. Good luck wherever you go!!!!
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Old 05-18-2005, 06:16 PM
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I'm Confused josephmedman

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if you want to goto school in poland go to the school in krakow or warsaw..i went to the school in warsaw so if you need any information on that school just email me at josephmedman@yahoo.com..take care
On this thread you posted:

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what is the best source to gain information on this topic..i think it is from someone who has actually gone to the school..not someone who is bitter at another school trying to compare it to an HMI affiliated school like any foreign school outside of the US matters in terms of rank..things you must look at are number 1..stafford loans..only three schools in poland offer that full interest free loan and my school in katowice was one of them..second..clinical rotations..how many hospitals they have..poznan cannot do more than 12 weeks outside of poland for rotations..that is garbage..the programs i have talked to requirew a minimum of two years that which i have complted in both NY and Chicago at great hospitals..if you need more info from someone who KNOWS about this contact me at josephmedman@yahoo.com..if you want to talk to some ignorant haters, talk to these people from poznan that havent even been given the opportunity to rotate in the US and expect to assimilate into the US system..haha..what a joke..delayed gratification my friend..Joe
In addition, you posted on this thread:

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..it took me forever and a million phone calls to find that same information out..[u]i actually used to goto school in debrecen but transfered out..[/u]i have a friend who went to school in debrecen, applied for residency in NY, not only did he not get it, but the NY state board of regents placed a law suit against him..this is no lie..his name begins with a B..i would rather not say the name but this happened about 3 years ago..i really felt bad for him..bottom line..he is doign fine in residency in chicago now..anyways..my point is..dont leave anything out, dont apply to NY if you ahve done more than 12 weeks and have attained credit from yoru school..its not worth it..take care
Now, I am confused.

Which school(s) did you attend?
  • Debrecen
    Warsaw
    Katowice

Or all three?

Miklos

Miklos brought out a good point. You know I'm still confused as to where you really went to school. Is this where you are a seasoned veteran?
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Old 05-19-2005, 04:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Miklos
Quote:
Originally Posted by josephmedman
if you want to goto school in poland go to the school in krakow or warsaw..i went to the school in warsaw so if you need any information on that school just email me at josephmedman@yahoo.com..take care
On this thread you posted:

Quote:
Originally Posted by josephmedman
what is the best source to gain information on this topic..i think it is from someone who has actually gone to the school..not someone who is bitter at another school trying to compare it to an HMI affiliated school like any foreign school outside of the US matters in terms of rank..things you must look at are number 1..stafford loans..only three schools in poland offer that full interest free loan and my school in katowice was one of them..second..clinical rotations..how many hospitals they have..poznan cannot do more than 12 weeks outside of poland for rotations..that is garbage..the programs i have talked to requirew a minimum of two years that which i have complted in both NY and Chicago at great hospitals..if you need more info from someone who KNOWS about this contact me at josephmedman@yahoo.com..if you want to talk to some ignorant haters, talk to these people from poznan that havent even been given the opportunity to rotate in the US and expect to assimilate into the US system..haha..what a joke..delayed gratification my friend..Joe
In addition, you posted on this thread:

Quote:
Originally Posted by josephmedman
..it took me forever and a million phone calls to find that same information out..[u]i actually used to goto school in debrecen but transfered out..[/u]i have a friend who went to school in debrecen, applied for residency in NY, not only did he not get it, but the NY state board of regents placed a law suit against him..this is no lie..his name begins with a B..i would rather not say the name but this happened about 3 years ago..i really felt bad for him..bottom line..he is doign fine in residency in chicago now..anyways..my point is..dont leave anything out, dont apply to NY if you ahve done more than 12 weeks and have attained credit from yoru school..its not worth it..take care
Now, I am confused.

Which school(s) did you attend?
  • Debrecen
    Warsaw
    Katowice

Or all three?

Miklos

Miklos brought out a good point. You know I'm still confused as to where you really went to school. Is this where you are a seasoned veteran?
My question is:

If you did go to all these three schools, how are you dealing with the nightmare of licensure?

You've triplicated your paperwork for licensure and unless both Warsaw AND Katowice (Silesia) get approved by California, you'll never be able to be licensed there.

In addition, the US clinical experience that you seem to have gotten may not make that much of a difference (depending on your USMLE scores), as you are going into neurology which is pretty wide open for IMGs at 38% representation.

How do you justify your decision to transfer not once, but twice considering all this?

Miklos
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