Originally Posted by josephmedman

i just called up the university of chicago, as well as upenn and cornell's weil college of medicine and the only school that allows ANY IMG's to rotate is the University of Chicago. The other two never have as of this date and have never even heard of KMU..please do not get peoples hopes up with such lies..The University of Chicago also told me that there is no such affiliation with KMU..please talk to Dr. Brain Kelton..head of the clinical department at the university of chicago if you do not believe me..an official affiliation means much paper work between the university and the hospital..there are lawyers involved and state laws to abide by..there is such thing as a verbal affiliation but that limits the student as to what he may be able to do post graduation..if you do not see the paper itself with the hospitals signature on it, it is NOT an official affiliation..this is jsut a warning to all who intend to exceed 12 weeks because the 12 week law is for NY, Chicago, Pennsylvania, california, new Mexico, texas, florida, and louisiana..and thats just as far as i know..please do not exceed 12 weeks unless you see a written agreement with your own eyes..as i said, you can set up your own rotations, hungary even allowed students to do that..but whether or not that state accepts it is a whole different story..As i said, please call up the office of The University of Chicago and see for yourself..There is no such affiliation..Jackson Park Hospital will grant verbal affiliations to new schools but NO new written affiliations due to a mess with a couple of schools and they are only affiliated with Chicago Med..so that can't even be the school this person who "supposedly" has an affiliation is talking about..

bottom line..dont believe anyone on this forum...even me if you dont feel it..do your OWN research..people will guide you the wrong way always bceause of their subjective opinions such as these KMU students who are making false claims of affiliations..please beware all..take care
As for these alleged affiliations

Originally Posted by josephmedman

i spoke to them and they do not allow it..U. of Chicago has never even heard of your school..If you need affiliation help i can help you out..i got my school an affiliation with Jackson Park..dont know if you are interested but its on the table..take care

Originally Posted by josephmedman

exactly..you said the university of chicago..there is no such affiliation at the UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO!!one hundred percent..that is a lie that there is an affiliation..if there is, please post the contact information and names..of course i knwo waht UIC is..there is a huuge difference..UIC allows externs of FMG's but also..no foreign school affiliation..trust me..i knwo all this because i went through it all when i was trying to get affiliations for my school more than what we had..i was the pres of AMSA and the pres. of my school..i speak to all these hospitals constantly..

Originally Posted by josephmedman

i spoke to them and they do not allow it..U. of Chicago has never even heard of your school..If you need affiliation help i can help you out..i got my school an affiliation with Jackson Park..dont know if you are interested but its on the table..take care

Originally Posted by josephmedman

first of all..i stated that i did NOT like the organization of HMI..i NEVER promoted my school like you guys insist on doing with your school..i wonder who is hte agent now..i am a graduate with more experience than you and i am giving objective information..as for UIC..first you type that you have the affiliation..then the letter you write to the hospital says "can you tell me whether we have established or are goign to establish an affiliation with your hospital?"..what is that?..i still dont see any proof here..stop lying to people..i am just trying to give objective standpoints from all areas..i suggested that people go carib...i also suggested tehy goto a school with 2 years rotation..no need to get defensive here buddy..you are still new to this game..i am a seasoned veteran..your school is NOT affiliated with UIC..stop lying please!!its nto fair to those who are lookign for honest advise..

oh yeah..and i did nto say anythign about any fee..i just have some connections and was willing to help you guys out so relax there..i am already a physician and dont need that petty cash..i am not even supporting my alma mater..i do not think agents are ethical..unfortunately i had to go that way but that is in the past and it was delayed gratification for me..whatever it took, i got to where i am today and during my interviews clinical experience of 2 years in an affiliated institution means a LOT..if you guys get affiliation one day..GOOD FOR YOU!!but ONE hostpial is NOTHING..esp. with how many students you have..with americans already rotating you will have limited access since UIC has only 6 Internal Med attendings and 4 of them are occupied at all times but UIC students throughout the year..do your research and then holler back at me buddy..stop trying to promote your school with lies and stick to the facts..