For those of you who have gone, or are still attending one of these schools in Poland...where have your graduates been getting residencies?

Thanks

Really can't tell you for Poznan. They don't track it. My class is the first one that Poznan will be tracking our USMLE scores and Residencies. That may be hard to understand, it was for me until I got here. This place isn't perfect but it's really not as bad as you think. I'm happy with the education I am receiving here.

I'm not an agent click on my "www".

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I don't think you are, I am just saying in other threads...you really wonder who is actually out for your best interest. Thanks a lot for the info on the residency tracking!

Hopefully, I will be starting in fall at Lublinm Silesia, or Poznan. (I still have to contact Prof. Stan Wiktor for Poznan).


Am I going to Poland ? I don't know yet as I am still debating; however, I have been doing research for past one month.

I found that HMI offers clinical rotations at:

http://www.slam.katowice.pl/en/rotations.htm

and few other hospitals.

Mikols made the point about the rotations that we need to check for licensure..... So I am still in the process of confirming that.

Moreover, I have had a chance to talk to few students who are currently in the program (Silesia or Lublin), and they are satisfied.

Most of them said that: "It is not the best option. Try to get in the US medical school or Caribbean, and if that does not work out then opt for the medical schools in Poland"


Also I have confirmed that the graduates from Lublin or Silesia are currently doing their Residency or have finished their Residency at one or the other Hospitals.

The places where they did their residency:

New York, Ohio, Illinois, Georgia, Maryland, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, Washing D.C, Michigan, Hawaii, Kentucky.

Again, if you are willing to go into competitive field such as Surgery, you might have really hard time to get a residency position; however, I did see that most of them had a Residency Position in Internal Medicine and Family Practice, so if that is what you are looking for...Poland should not be that bad.

The best bet for you would be to contact the Residency director at few hospitals and check with them whether they consider IMG for a residency position, and if they do what are the odds? What do they look for in IMG and what should you do to improve your chances?

Good Luck.

dt

Simply listing states in which graduates may have completed residencies demonstrates very little. Most any decent school in the region can claim the same or much more. (Caveat: Many graduates may come from the native language, not English language programs.)

A list of recently graduated residents from the English language program and their precise placements (program name, year, etc..) would be much more helpful (e.g. what SGU/Ross/AUC/Saba do). Independent verification by checking on the program website for the resident's name is (IMO) the gold standard.

Check out this thread for information about PUMS regarding residencies and licensure.

http://www.valuemd.com/ftopic32574.html

This is not official though because like Gerry said the school has not tracked this information in the past.

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I wish I could provide accurate information on the graduates from Silesia and Lublin; however, I have tried to put the Hospital of Residency, State, and their Field. I am sure you can spend some time and find out the information of the students, and the medical college they attended.

1. University of New Mexico--New Mexico--Psychiatry.
2. Medical College of Georgia--Georgia--Family Practice.
3. John Hopkins Hospital--Maryland--Surgery.
4. Long Island College Hospital--New York--Internal Medicine.
5. New York Methodist Hospital--New York--Pedicatrics.
6. Loyola University--Illinois--Psychiatry.
7. Robert Packer Hospital--Pennsylvania--Surgery.
8. Souther Illinois University--Illinois--Internal Medicine.
9. Souther Illinois University--Illinois--Internal Medicine.
10. Southern Illinois University--Illinois-Psychiatry.
11. Maimonides Medical Center--New York--Surgery.
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There are about 50 students (54 TO BE ACCURATE) who graduated recently and are succesfully in their 1st or 2nd year of residence in the United States, and many more are in the 6 year program who are still at the University. You should be able to obtain the information on the recent graduates from the HMI people. (Request a packet that has information about their program) You don't necessarily have to apply for the program. You can go ahead and request information packet and look at the list of most recent graduates from Silesia and Lublin and their practicing sites.


Moreover, Mikols, none of the Universities besides those few that you listed from the Caribbean have list of their graduate students. Moreover, both neither Poznan nor Jageillonian medical colleges have listed the practicing sites for their graduates, and to be honest I haven’t come across a school yet (besides few universities of Caribbean) who have accurate and organized information of which the students can avail themselves.

I wish that all the international medical schools were as organized as those in Caribbean. That would make the transition for a prospective student like and many others 10 times easier.

dthomas: There is a little bit of info on US residencies for Polish grads throughout this forum. Just search for Poland AND residency under the European forum.
I see that you are considering Lublin. In case you don't already know, they do require that you apply through HMI. You're also going to be paying $5,000 a year in "HMI fees" alone. I know the HMI fees go down from year to year, can't remember exactly how much.
My suggestion is that you look around this forum for topics concerning agents, HMI and Alliance. There is an overwhelming body of negative information that, IMO, should not be taken lightly considering the gravity of the decision that you will be forced to make; "Where will I study medicine at?"
Just my 2 cents worth.

A couple of comments (as I've got to run).

At first glance, none of the residencies above look too competitive. I will look into the programs later when I have a chance. In addition, listing surgery above, without mentioning whether it is a preliminary or categorical spot is meaningless.

Agreed. That's why those schools set the standard for IMGs.

Ditto (at least the good schools in the Carib.)