The change to now require euro instead of dollars, and the increase it causes, does not offend me ... the additional increase over the %agreed does.

PUMS in my opinion is now 2nd to both JG and Warsaw ... for overall quality .. if you read the post on Warsaw you know that it is getting a lot of positive reviews despite the fact that it wasn't even considered close to Poznan at one time. The administration in Poznan has an attitude problem that seems alien to even other parts of Poland. But, it still rates above Lodz, from the reviews here.

The other major deteriment to this school is the "look the other way" policy towards cheating by a select group who have been continually told they can not bring camera phones and other electronic devices to exams. Right now they do bring major $$$s to the school and that seems to be what rules --

Do you only ask people you disagree with personal info ... I believe your posts says newbie too.

Well people usually don't take offense when asked for how long they have studied at a certain institution. I've asked you this question throughout my previous posts, but you keep dodging it. Don't you agree that the time spent down there is very relevant; i reckon info from someone who's been down there for say 4 years is (probably) more accurate than someone who's been living there for a few months, or perhaps dropped out/got kicked out after a while, am I wrong? I mean if you find this to be an offensive question then just say so... I just thought you missed it/forgot to answer when I asked in my first post.

Newbie, no pooh pooh, why do you think am asking questions like how is PUMS compared to JAG/Warsaw?! I'm still in the process of applying and I'm just trying to get as much information as I can, and making sure that the little info I know is accurate and correct. If you, for some reason, don't agree with something I will post my opinion and/or question other users. I will never simply say "You are wrong. I'm right. Period.". We're on the same side .

The world does not revolve around the USMLE.



Posted this early today -- but it seems to have disappeared, or I'm just not seeing it, so here it is again without the link: The world does not revolve around the USMLE, but the 4 year program at PUMS does, or so administration has represented that it does.
"In 1993, the English Division with English as the language of instruction was created for international students starting in 1993 with the 4-Year M.D. Program based entirely on the American curriculum and the requirements of the U.S.M.L.E. system." .... "The four-year M.D. program in English at Poznan University is intended, among other things, to qualify its students to comply successfully with these procedures (ECFMG-ACGME), which are constantly under review and subject to change." ... "A 6-Year Program in English based on the Polish/European model followed this, a year later."

guys i am in one week shy of being a 3rd/4 year at PUMS; here is my humble opinion. its not the worst in the world, but before making any decisions come to these schools and decided for your self, about the city, the school, and poland. Also try asking the upper years about pooh pooh rather then eager fresh students, i was once optimistic about poznan too... now i just want me degree and never to return to poland. GL

Amen to that, and for all you optomistic people that are argueing among each other about PUMS.....check my previous posts. I was the same way......things change when you find out the reality of the way things work here.

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Yup it has worked well for me. But I would have done something different if I was younger. I married a Polish girl so I guess I will have to visit, would never return otherwise. I did enjoy the chance to live in Europe and the cheap travel while here. Gone in 24 days, not that I am counting.

Hi guys i was born in an ex-comunist country.. and i know all youare talking i think even in my country is worse than in poland because they are part of EU... we aren;t even close. The point i wanted to make is that my main concern is to go to poland spend 4 years of my life studying my *** off, at the end of which i will indept for about 100k if not more, and after that not being able to practice medicine... I understand that there are alot of barriers (exams and what not) but can i practice medicine in north america? My biggest concern is to suffer for 4 years just to comeback and to know that my degree is USELESS...
I know if i went here in canada or US to MD it would be easier to get in.... but i don;t think the odds are in my favour....
I am now what ex communism is about (corruption, disorganization, costumer service is none existant, bribes, etc) But my options are limited...
So is Poland a valuable way to become a doctor?

In response to your question, Polish schools are the cheapest way that i know or have heard of to get an accredited medical degree in the United States, Canadian, and Europe. its more expensive now btw, but still nothing i have heard of is even close. Currently only UJ, is accredited in all 50 states and PUMS is soon to follow. As for europe and Canada the schools are accredited through out. So are polish schools a Value MD, yes in this respect the are GL.

ps. the extra 15k a year maybe worth it somewhere else...