What would you do wait an extra year or go to Polish school?
If you had a choice between going to Polish med school or instead waiting an extra year and going to American school or worst case scenario St Georges or Ross.. What would you do wait an extra year or go to Polish school?

If I had a choice -- obviously wait a year for a good American school. Do you have a choice? The problem is most people wait a year and still don't get in .. if you know you have competitive scores why are you posting on this forum? If your not competitive start any of the international programs now, they are all similar academically with various pros and cons. I probably would not choose Poland, because the concept of fairness and truth in business is alien to the Polish administration--and they don't care about the students just the $$$--the real interest is in making the Polish 6 year program work not the English 4/6 year program. I have never heard of Caribbean schools that lie outright about tuition, dorms, classes, etc... all based on what's in their best interest--and they seem to have an interest in making the school work and did not add an English speaking program on just to capture extra $$$s. And, while I do not know of any "rascist" incidents in Poland preference is given to students who have a Polish heritage.

whoops: You really haven't heard about Carib schools that lie outright about tuition, dorms, classes, etc.?

Wow... I'd wager that you haven't spent a ton of time on this forum, have you? Check out the Carib section, there are horror stories galore.

Also -- while I sympathize with what seems to be a yucky experience for you in Poland -- I wonder if it might have more to do with the school itself, than the country...

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Since all my comments were directed to problems with the school I'm not sure why you think I don't like the "country". Like any country the administrators act the way they do because the citizens allow them too -- so to that end I do think the problems with the school are problems with the political system itself, which goes back to the citizens.

Preferance is given to people that have the money!!!! A third of the students at PUMS are from Taiwan. It's just more children from Polish heratiage are interested in returing to Poland.

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American/Canadian students with Polish heritage are in the English 4/6 program for the same reason other American/Canadian students are -- they didn't get into a US school. They are given preference by the professors because they speak Polish -- and yes the Tawainese are given preference because they have $$$$s a lot of them should have been kicked out for cheating by now and are allowed to take way to many retakes. Since many of the Tawainese never will take the USMLE I'm not sure the ones who are unqualified are every screened out of the system.

The world does not revolve around the USMLE.



Also, cheating is not endemic to PUMS... or to Poland...


Cheating News 10-31-06 etc. Just google for more...

re: Since many of the Tawainese never will take the USMLE I'm not sure the ones who are unqualified are every screened out of the system.

Is not a reference to the world revolving around it, but a reference to the fact that tests that attempt to control retakes eliminate many students who don't know the material, as opposed to students who have memorized one sentence answers. Albeit the USMLE is not as restrictive as other professions in what they do allow -- the NBME (org who oversees the USMLE) does not restrict the total number of attempts, but does restrict the earliest retake time and the max number per year (3x max in a given year). Here is a quote from the USMLE website. Further many states have the 7 year rule for passing all required tests. Since these students to my knowledge never take a restrictive test at all ... is there ever a time when they are adequately tested.

Cheating does happen everywhere, to different degres. But, constant reprimands and no concrete action to one particular group is somewhat enabling.

There is a reason why many don't support multiple choice testing over orals -- which have their own downside -- I'm sure they'd even pass those with enough $$$s.

Keeping students in a school for $$$s without concern for quality says something about the school itself.

Hey whoops can you tell us a little about yourself, I mean for how long have you been attending PUMS and what program are you taking? By the look of your posts and the fact that you joined joined last month it seems like you are on a crusade to crucify PUMS, or at least kind of (no hard feelings dude ).

Also, did you guys notice the new (and empty) "Hope Medical Institute" sub-thread... haha what's that crap doing here?!

Read the previous threads and posts from other people ... i'm not crucifying anyone just agreeing with what has already been said ... do you want it sugar coated i'm not the one to ask ...

It's all been said -- it's not nice, pleasant or fair, but sure Poznan will eventually give students a degree if they finish the program and sure if you work at it you may even get licensure somewhere someday

Of late Poznan has most notably had a significant increase in tuition despite a policy that says they will not increase over a defined % and has told a significant number of students they may not pass the next year ... would people rather know what goes on there before or after they get there ... bring $$$s and it doesn't really matter who I am ... call administration ... you can verify anything I've said without asking me direct... don't shoot the messenger

p.s. sorry the truth offends

FYI, I think I've read all the threads related to PUMS. About the max percentage increase in tuition. Is that assumption based on the value of the z's or $'s, cos if the school decides to charge a certain amount of z's and then TRANSLATES that tuition into $, then if they increase the tuition by X z's which may be equal to a raise of say 5% it will not necessarily mean a 5% increase in $, regarding the fact that the Z's increase in value while the $'s constantly falling.

However, if this is not the case then YES, it's very, very UNFAIR.

Would you (all) still agree that Poznan is the best place after JA and on about the same level as Warsaw? Overall I get the impression that's it's a good university. And hey whoops, for how long have you been attending PUMS?