Home Forum Books Links Album Residency USMLE PreMed


Caribbean Medical Schools European Medical Schools Foreign Medical Schools Medical Resources
Go Back   ValueMD Medical Schools Forum > EUROPEAN & RUSSIAN MEDICAL SCHOOLS > Polish Medical Schools

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 06-06-2007, 02:38 AM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1
Finished 2 years in Poland through HMI- Am I screwed?

Looking for some good advice here...

I am attending the Medical University of Lublin.

Here are my issues:

1) I would like to practice in Texas. I just discovered that Lublin is not on the list of approved medical schools deemed by the Texas Medical board. From what I understand, I would have to provide extensive additional documentation that my medical school is valid...

2)My internal med rotation is ACGME approved at Wyckoff Heights, but none of the other rotations are accredited with the exception of family practice. Will I be able to complete these other rotations at other hospitals that have accredited rotations?

3) Would it be wise for me to transfer to another medical school, say, in the Caribbean?

Can someone please advise me on the best thing to do? thanks.

Last edited by luckycharmed02; 06-06-2007 at 03:15 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 06-06-2007, 05:30 AM
gawtti's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 383
hey lucky,

to the best of my knowledge ALL rotations have to be ACGME approved to be eligible for a medical license in texas. i read on the Ross forum that a student from texas only realised this requirement but was too late. mind you that ross is accredited in texas. so, even if the school is accredited in texas. you will still have to be careful and make sure all rotations are ACGME approved.

Ross does take transfers into the fifth semester. so, does AUC but not SGU.

hope that helped a bit. All the best! cheers!

Last edited by gawtti; 06-06-2007 at 11:58 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 06-06-2007, 12:03 PM
gawtti's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 383
THINK LONG AND HARD! remember, even if you transfer to Ross or AUC you will still have to provide extensive paperwork because of your transfer between schools (refer to third paragraph).
if you are SET on practicing in texas and WOULDN'T be happy anywhere else. then, i would advise you to look at Ross or AUC. however, you might have to start from fifth semester at both schools.

in regards to your second question, ALL CORES have to be done at MUL affiliated hospitals (from what i've gathered on this forum). therefore, even if you do ACGME approved rotations at another hospital but is NOT affiliated with MUL. then, you will most likely run into some problems with licensure in texas.

my advise would be to do the ACGME rotations at wycoff and return back to poland and complete the rest of your rotations. that will eliminate any problems with licensure. the same amount of paperwork is required if you transfer. or, maybe even more because you will still have to provide extensive paperwork proving equivalency of your first 2 years at MUL anyway. plus getting all the transcripts from both schools.

ONLY YOU can make the decision. Good Luck!

Quote:
Originally Posted by luckycharmed02 View Post
Looking for some good advice here...

I am attending the Medical University of Lublin. I finished the first 2 years and Ive done my internal med rotation at Wyckoff Heights.

Here are my issues:

1) I would like to practice in Texas. I just discovered that Lublin is not on the list of approved medical schools deemed by the Texas Medical board. From what I understand, I would have to provide extensive additional documentation that my medical school is valid...

2)My internal med rotation is ACGME approved at Wyckoff Heights, but none of the other rotations are accredited with the exception of family practice. Will I be able to complete these other rotations at other hospitals that have accredited rotations?

3) Would it be wise for me to transfer to another medical school, say, in the Caribbean?

Can someone please advise me on the best thing to do? thanks.

Last edited by gawtti; 06-06-2007 at 12:19 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 06-06-2007, 01:06 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 768
Would a transfer to one of the other Polish med. schools be possible, and would it help with Texas? I'm making that tentative suggestion simply because I understood that several of them were good for all 50 states.
Also, this extra documentation, is it really difficult? Is it something Lublin could help with? I'm assuming that the school is broadly similar to other Polish schools which are recognized.
__________________
"Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better."
Samuel Beckett, "Worstward Ho", 1983
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 06-06-2007, 02:58 PM
gawtti's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 383
transferring is always a risky and tricky business. i personally think that if a particular state means so much to me. i would be willing to do whatever possible to get licensed in that state. even if providing extra documentation to prove equivalency.

in any case, i would think that there are grads from other 4 yr programs in poland (or even from MUL) already practicing in texas. so, really it won't be, atleast thats what i think, that difficult to get licensed there. or, proving equivalency. a school not listed on texas' list doesn't necessarily mean you can't practice there at all anyway.

i think the admin at any unapproved school should go the extra lengths to apply for accreditation. the only way the admin will get moving though. is if the students themselves voice their concerns. actually, i'm going to push our admin to do exactly that. since, we have a fair number of texans here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by diogenes View Post
Would a transfer to one of the other Polish med. schools be possible, and would it help with Texas? I'm making that tentative suggestion simply because I understood that several of them were good for all 50 states.
Also, this extra documentation, is it really difficult? Is it something Lublin could help with? I'm assuming that the school is broadly similar to other Polish schools which are recognized.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 06-07-2007, 05:34 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 768
Quote:
Originally Posted by gawtti View Post
transferring is always a risky and tricky business. i personally think that if a particular state means so much to me. i would be willing to do whatever possible to get licensed in that state. even if providing extra documentation to prove equivalency.

in any case, i would think that there are grads from other 4 yr programs in poland (or even from MUL) already practicing in texas. so, really it won't be, atleast thats what i think, that difficult to get licensed there. or, proving equivalency. a school not listed on texas' list doesn't necessarily mean you can't practice there at all anyway.

i think the admin at any unapproved school should go the extra lengths to apply for accreditation. the only way the admin will get moving though. is if the students themselves voice their concerns. actually, i'm going to push our admin to do exactly that. since, we have a fair number of texans here.
I agree with Gawtii's excellent advice. Really press the accreditation issue with Lublin.
In my experience Central/East European schools often need not so much a push as a sharp kick to liaise with overseas authorities. Sometimes there are language and cultural difficulties as well as the general inexperience of the school. So you might even find (I know this has worked in one Czech school) that offering to liaise between Texas and the Poles; explaining things that aren't clear; finding a helpful contact to speak to at the Texas board - these things can help a lot.
At the end of the day wider accreditation helps the school raise its profile and marketability.
__________________
"Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better."
Samuel Beckett, "Worstward Ho", 1983
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 06-07-2007, 02:08 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 24
I would not worry about it

If you want to practice in Texas, find out what states have licensing reciprocity with Texas. Then see if you qualify for a license in any of those states. If you do, you can apply for a lisence in one of those other states and then apply for Texas license based on the fact that you have a license to practice medicine in state X, which has reciprocity with Texas. Analyze, that alternative.

There must be a mistake about the ACGME accredited (or approved?) requirement on each rotation. Otherwise not a single IMG would have a license in Texas. Remember, ACGME has jurisdiction exclusively in the US. Not a single foreign medical school/hospital is "ACGME approved" yet 20% of physicians practicing in the US are foreign.

Like someone else said, pressure the school to contact the Texas board. Usually all they must do is fill out paperwork and of course pay a fee.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 06-07-2007, 04:25 PM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 3
[quote=luckycharmed02;617001]Looking for some good advice here...

I am attending the Medical University of Lublin.



2)My internal med rotation is ACGME approved at Wyckoff Heights, but none of the other rotations are accredited with the exception of family practice. Will I be able to complete these other rotations at other hospitals that have accredited rotations?
quote]

Hi there luckycharms, I was wondering where you got the information about which rotations are accredited and which hare not? Does HMI give you this information? I'm sorry I am just really confused, and would you or anyone else know of any place where I could find some info about rotations and the accreditation in regard to Canada, this still in regards to HMI affiliated students.
so if you could please help me out here if you be greatly appreciated. thank you.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 06-08-2007, 12:41 AM
gawtti's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 383
click here.

[quote=BeginerM;617782]
Quote:
Originally Posted by luckycharmed02 View Post
Looking for some good advice here...

I am attending the Medical University of Lublin.



2)My internal med rotation is ACGME approved at Wyckoff Heights, but none of the other rotations are accredited with the exception of family practice. Will I be able to complete these other rotations at other hospitals that have accredited rotations?
quote]

Hi there luckycharms, I was wondering where you got the information about which rotations are accredited and which hare not? Does HMI give you this information? I'm sorry I am just really confused, and would you or anyone else know of any place where I could find some info about rotations and the accreditation in regard to Canada, this still in regards to HMI affiliated students.
so if you could please help me out here if you be greatly appreciated. thank you.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
50 MCQS OB/GYN with explanations Beaker USMLE Step 2 CK Forum 5 05-26-2006 03:44 PM
Very important thread for all Canadian IMGs EdmontonOilers Canadian IMG 7 04-21-2006 09:18 PM
Gettin a job back in US after 2 years return of service on J-1 EdmontonOilers Canadian IMG 2 04-20-2006 07:54 PM
Level of Difficulty during 3rd and 4th Years luis9953 Ross University School of Medicine 0 04-01-2003 03:44 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2003-2008 ValueMD, LLC. All rights reserved.
Home About Privacy Contact us Disclaimer Site Map Advertise

Site Meter

International Foreign and Caribbean medical schools,
ValueMD provides information on medical education from premed to residency