Does anyone have an idea as to which university has the best 4-year MD program? I've heard the Poznan has a better program, but it seems a lot are choosing Warsaw.

Which school has the most helpful faculty, best USMLE pass rates, most state recognized, best clinicals, etc.?

Any advice? I know some answers might be biased, but either way, all replies help. Thanks!

For UJ, Warsaw, and Poz:

Which school has the most helpful faculty?
All about the same.

Best USMLE pass rates?
All about the same.

Most state recognized?
All about the same.

Best clinicals, etc.?
All about the same.

If they had to fight it out (no rabbit punches or groin shots)?
Poznan.

If it's based on the amount of non-white people or cultural diversity?
They each fail miserably.

If you rank them on food?
I say UJ. The pathetic attempts at asian, mexican, spanish, and french cuisine in Krakow are slightly better than Poz or Warsaw.

If you're catholic?
UJ again. Pope likes Krakow most.

If you're not catholic?
Just convert. It's just simpler.

I hope my advice/opinions have saved you and that the greatness that is your future career as a physician all is based on my post today. Good luck to you, sir!

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Hi,
Here is my input, Poznan has a longer experience with their 4-year M.D program, and therefore better established than Warsaw (Warsaw has had its 4 year prgm for like 4-5 years). That’s a pretty important factor since it takes a while before a prgm. takes form, before all the kinks in the system are worked out.

In the other hand Warsaw is the capital and far more money is invested in the facilities and hospitals. The Medical University of Warsaw was ranked as the top med-university in Poland, one of the factors taken in concern in this ranking was the facilities.
This doesn’t mean that the 4-year prgm, or even the English 6-year prgm, is the best in Poland, since the ranking was over the polish med-prgms, but it indicates that the university has a good foundation.

The English 6-year prgm. are basically clones of the polish ones, which are recognized by different states in the US, but the med-schools have to apply to each state medical board individually before their English program is approved.
Take for example California, neither Poznan or Warsaw are approved there, from what I heard Warsaw and Krakow are planning on applying together...or something like that...anyways most likely the 6-year prgm will be recognized earlier than the 4-year prgms. But the trend is that once one English prgm. is approved in one state the others follow, if they apply.

The professor and TA's at MUW are helpful and most of them are easygoing, most importantly they are very knowledgeable. The faculty staff is, as far as I have experienced, always helpful.

I think most people choose MUW b/c it is located in the capital and as all the benefits that entitles, not only for the facilities of the MUW but also for what the city offers.

I can't say that I have meet any 4-year student that has been displeased with the way their prgm. is managed or with their professors, etc.
Well, at least no more complaints then what you would expect from med-students...everyone naggs.

I am myself a 2nd-year student at MUW (6 year-prgm.), so I might be biased, but trust me...its not much of diffrence between Krakow, Poznan n Warsaw...expect that the 2 former are medieval tourist traps..

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I agree for the most part with neongoat’s assessment. Except for cultural diversity - Look at the UJ website the English division is made up largely of Scandinavians. Poznan on the other hand has a considerable number of Asians. Most of the Asians I have met in Poznan are from either Taiwan or India. I do not know how culturally diverse Warsaw is.

UJ is better known worldwide than Poznan and name recognition works to their advantage. Google US doctors their are more from UJ than PUMS.

Poznan used to offer 4 year housing, which I believe is an advantage, however that is no longer true (see dorm thread).

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They are all the same.

UJ rocks

Same arguement differant post.

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Hello,
I am currently finishing a Biomedical Science degree in London and planning to do a 4-year course in Poland. I have tried to contact the GMC regarding their approval of 4-year programmes from Poland, but have received no reply. Would anyone be so kind to tell me whether these programmes are approved in the UK on the same level as the 6-year programmes? Thanks a lot! R

See paragraph 2 of this page-
GMC | Acceptable primary medical qualification

The 4-year courses should fulfil all those req's. In addition, I think some other U.K. students have confirmed this on VMD before now.

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