Find and Compare Health Schools Now
Your Zip Code: Subject:
Campus Type: Degree: Advanced Search
ValueMD Sponsor
Home Forum Books Links Album Residency USMLE PreMed


Caribbean Medical Schools European Medical Schools Foreign Medical Schools Medical Resources
Go Back   ValueMD Medical Schools Forum > Other Health Professionals > Pharmacy Schools

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 07-18-2005, 09:56 AM
azskeptic's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 5,782
State probes Hawaii College of Pharmacy

State probes Hawaii College of Pharmacy


By Kristen Consillio
Pacific Business News (Honolulu)
Updated: 8:00 p.m. ET July 17, 2005


The state is investigating the Hawaii College of Pharmacy in Kapolei for alleged unfair and deceptive business practices.

The investigation stems from complaints by some of the 240 students who have paid $28,000 each -- a total of $6.72 million -- in annual tuition for a three-year doctorate program, which was denied accreditation. Students are worried that without accreditation they will be left with worthless degrees and unable to work as pharmacists.

The Hawaii College of Pharmacy, operated by Nevada-based Pacific Educational Services, opened last October and has since struggled to get accreditation after quietly enrolling 240 students -- far more than any startup pharmacy school ever enrolled in its first class.

Pacific Educational Services is the same company that plans to build Hawaii's first dental school, also in Kapolei.

The Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education, the national accrediting agency for pharmacy degree programs, rejected the college's accreditation request and in January instructed it to withdraw its application primarily because of its unprecedented class size. A typical startup program opens with between 60 and 80 students.

Other problems include a revolving door of administrators and qualified faculty and inadequate teaching facilities and training sites.

The state Office of Consumer Protection, which oversees unaccredited universities, is investigating a wide range of allegations based on student complaints. If a business is deemed guilty of violating the law, the office can file a civil lawsuit asking the court to intervene to prevent further violations, require restitution to victims and impose civil penalties. Hawaii has no licensing requirements for unaccredited universities and therefore little oversight.

"The primary problem does focus on accreditation," said Jeffrey Brunton, staff attorney for the Office of Consumer Protection. "These students can't take the pharmacy licensing exam unless they graduate from a school which is either accredited or has candidate status. If the school doesn't get accredited these students will spend presumably $100,000 [on tuition and living expenses for three years] and they won't be able to work as pharmacists."

The school opened without going through the normal accreditation process by skipping the first step -- pre-candidate status, which is granted before a school admits any students as long as its plans meet basic accreditation standards. Instead, the college enrolled students and directly applied for candidate status, which is granted if a school reasonably assures that a program will become fully accredited by the time the first class graduates.

"In the meantime they enrolled 240 students, many times larger than any new college of pharmacy has ever enrolled," said Jerry Johnson, project director for the proposed University of Hawaii College of Pharmacy. "There are serious concerns about the way the college developed by deans of colleges of pharmacy all over the country because they cut corners and haven't done the things one normally does in creating a college of pharmacy to ensure the quality is there."

The UH College of Pharmacy is planned for UH-Hilo. Johnson expects to recommend dean candidates to the Board of Regents in September. The opening date has not been determined.

The accrediting agency also has received numerous complaints from students at the private Kapolei college -- 95 percent of whom are from the Mainland and moved to Hawaii to attend the startup school. The college is operating in temporary leased lecture-hall classrooms and has yet to break ground on a proposed 5.7-acre campus. The students also can't get financial aid because the school is unaccredited.

Many students, who asked that their names not be published for fear of retribution, say school officials deceived them by taking their tuition and making empty promises regarding accreditation and the quality of the faculty and facilities.

"They knowingly misrepresented themselves when they knew that it was a joke and told us millions of times that everything would be fine even though they had no faculty, no rotation sites and too many students," said John Quinn, a former student who left the school in April after being informed the first graduating class would be delayed at least six months. "They're taking all of our money and giving us nothing in return."

Meanwhile, Pacific Educational Services, a private for-profit organization, plans to open a 120,000-square-foot Hawaii College of Dental Medicine next year and has openly discussed plans to start a nursing school as well. The company says it will spend $100 million to build the pharmacy and dental colleges totaling almost 300,000 square feet.

Students took a chance
The current dean of the private pharmacy school admits that enrolling in the college was a gamble for students.

"Students really took a chance spending $28,000 and then coming here and living here," said Dean H.A. Hasan, a former Waipahu High School special education teacher who became dean of the pharmacy college on July 1. "But they knew it was very much understood that this was a startup institution."

Hasan, who had been the assistant dean of curriculum, says the college didn't receive accreditation because it didn't have enough faculty and training sites and skipped pre-candidate status because of a mix-up with its former deans.

"The school started with that many students by accident -- we didn't feel that many students were going to come here," he said. "We had been behind the eight ball since I got here. It's been a very rough road and very hostile situation in many ways."

Hasan says enrollment has dropped to 231 students.

In recent months, at least eight college faculty, staff and administrators were either fired or resigned for reasons that weren't disclosed.

Hasan says problems began when the college made many, in his words, "bad hires" who didn't recruit more faculty and contract training sites. He says the college recently hired 13 part-time faculty and 13 full-time faculty and now has more than 155 practice sites.

"They've had a revolving door of administrators who are there one day and gone the next," UH's Johnson said. "I don't think the instability in the administration gives the accrediting body the confidence that they know what they're doing."

Students also are complaining about inadequate facilities and unqualified teachers who don't have pharmacy backgrounds. When students started at the school, Denise Criswell, Pacific Educational Services president, and David Monroe, corporation secretary and a former librarian, even taught pharmacy classes.

Former Maui state Sen. Jan Yagi-Buen is a director in other dissolved corporations started by Monroe and Criswell and was involved with the pharmacy school early on. Monroe and Yagi-Buen didn't return PBN's phone calls for comment.

"They assured us it would be a cake-walk process with no problems whatsoever because they had everything in place, so many great faculty members, and none of it was true," Quinn said.

Reducing class size
The college has proposed numerous plans to break up class size to fulfill accreditation requirements and keep students enrolled. Hasan says the college plans to reapply for candidate status on Oct. 1.

Among the plans that have been proposed by the college was a voluntary student deferment, meaning 100 students would stay at the school while 140 would voluntarily defer until the next class enrolls. Another proposal was a "save the college lottery," which would force half the student body to defer a year. A third plan was to partner with National University, which offers a pharmacy technician program but no doctorate degree.

The latest plan is to allow the top 100 students to return as second-year students, graduating as planned in 2007; placing the next 100 as first-year remediated students, graduating in 2008; and forcing the remaining students to start over in a year. Students repeating the first year have been asked to pay next year's tuition but wouldn't have to pay for a fourth year.

Meanwhile, the planned Pacific Educational Services' dental school is scheduled to break ground this fall.

"If they're going to do a dental college like they did the pharmacy college, Hawaii's getting a terrible reputation for operating like an offshore medical school," Johnson said. "They made a mess of the pharmacy program. We don't want to get a reputation of providing second-class health-care education in Hawaii."

© 2005 MSNBC.com

URL: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8613320/
__________________
Moderator - State Licensing Forum

Still skeptical after all these years.
This is it. There are no hidden meanings.WYSIWYG

http://www.internetmedicalschool.homestead.com

http://www.chiropractormds.homestead.com/index.html
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 07-18-2005, 10:07 AM
stateofequilibrium's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Battlestar Galactica
Posts: 22,046
Had a few friends thinking about going there, thank God I convinced them otherwise.
__________________
AUC Forum Moderator

Posterior Fornix.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 07-18-2005, 10:43 AM
azskeptic's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 5,782
amazing

Quote:
Originally Posted by stateofequilibrium
Had a few friends thinking about going there, thank God I convinced them otherwise.
What is amazing is that many people would choose to go to a school that isn't approved yet....pretty risky behavior......I can only imagine the lawsuits that are coming in the wake of that article.
__________________
Moderator - State Licensing Forum

Still skeptical after all these years.
This is it. There are no hidden meanings.WYSIWYG

http://www.internetmedicalschool.homestead.com

http://www.chiropractormds.homestead.com/index.html
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 07-18-2005, 10:50 AM
azskeptic's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 5,782
Honolulu article on accreditation

http://starbulletin.com/2005/07/16/business/story2.html
__________________
Moderator - State Licensing Forum

Still skeptical after all these years.
This is it. There are no hidden meanings.WYSIWYG

http://www.internetmedicalschool.homestead.com

http://www.chiropractormds.homestead.com/index.html
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 07-18-2005, 02:01 PM
microphage's Avatar
Useless Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 7,625
Quote:
Originally Posted by azskeptic
What is amazing is that many people would choose to go to a school that isn't approved yet....pretty risky behavior......I can only imagine the lawsuits that are coming in the wake of that article.
ah yes.. lets all give them pharm tech degrees instead of a Pharm. D.

I always thought Pharm Techs don't even need to goto school. My friend worked in a pharmacy and she got her tech degree after a few months working there.
__________________
Finally beat Super Mario Bros within 7 mins.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Straight out of high school... Equestrian10 Main European Medical Schools Forum 25 01-21-2008 09:47 AM
A MUST READ --> From the College of Physicians & Surg Rajesh_k Canadian IMG 2 06-22-2004 04:10 PM
Up to-date foreign schools list offering Federa Financial Ai dr_dre Main Foreign Medical Schools Forum 0 10-09-2003 01:12 AM
International Student Loan Program - ISLP Loans mtt St. Christophers College of Medicine 10 08-06-2003 07:54 PM
Network54 Main FOrum Page 12 Hanson Network54 Archives 0 02-15-2003 06:48 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2003-2008 ValueMD, LLC. All rights reserved.
Home About Privacy Contact us Disclaimer Site Map Advertise

Site Meter

International Foreign and Caribbean medical schools,
ValueMD provides information on medical education from premed to residency