[quote=swimguy23;536076]Yep, there are prematches out there. But, there are certainly not enough to change the match rate into the 70-80% range. That would be a LOT of prematches.

There are some threads in the past about the match numbers, and they are worth reviewing. The general conclusion is that the match numbers are certainly not as nice as we all thought, but they are likely a lot better from the established schools.

The reality is that there are a HUGE number of folks that never make it to the match, and there are a lot that get to the match, and still get no spot. Moral of the story? Increase your chances by doing well, and by going to a school that gives you the most opportunity.

what I posted???????????[quote]I never said I was better off from SJSM in fact I posted in general for this discussion. I always believe the "Big 4" are the best schools to attend due to the fact of the Cali approval and the possibility of all 50 states for practice.
These schools are also better established and have better facillities.

__________________
As a student on Value MD not attending one of the Covenanted schools there is no pleasure in posting anymore.

[quote=swimguy23;536076][quote=pruritis_ani;536060]
Remember, only about 50% of IMG's make it through to the match and get spots. And, the vast, vast majority of that 50% are from the more established schools.quote]
Yes that is true the prematch does happen often a lot more than admitted.

__________________
As a student on Value MD not attending one of the Covenanted schools there is no pleasure in posting anymore.

Yeah, I read what you posted. You said carib>DO. I disagreed, and said better carib=DO, lesser carib<DO.

I am not spinning anything. Simply stating that your stigma argument is weak, and that the lesser carib is a far, far worse option than DO. I thought that is what the discussion was about? DO vs carib, right?

BTW, I would be interested in the "research" you did. It looks like you simply posted your opinion, and don't like it when the reality does not match what you want to think. The only information you posted that may have been researched was incomplete and incorrect (about the DO not being able to get licensed if they do an MD residency).

If you don't like people disagreeing with you, you shouldn't be posting topics for discussion. Maybe you belong in the "only post if you agree with me" forum.

How is it not a fact if you are a DO and do MD residency you cannot be Lic in all 50 states? It is always posted that DO is always all 50 it is not it seems in these cases.

There is a thread on SDN right now where DO students are discussing how to get the MD behind their name to bypass the stigma with some recounting how other DO's have done this.

How is it a fact the DO's are not recongised in some countries for practice around he world?

How is it not a fact that Grads from the Big 4 may be able to get better residencies in some cases than DO's?

England considers them Chiropractors.

I found some of this out recently and was asking for discussion on it and you bring the school I attend into it, You are the one with the problem.

I need to scratch that itch I think.

__________________
As a student on Value MD not attending one of the Covenanted schools there is no pleasure in posting anymore.

I would rather have an MD from the Caribbean than a Do for the sole fact that i want to travel the world and be able to work anywhere in the world i wish!!!

__________________
ASUM Forum Moderator

The heart beat of ASUSM......

The fact is that states that have an osteopathic medical board typically have a requirment for a DO internship year for licensure. The complaints that you are refering to are about this. What this means is that a DO has two choices. They can do a DO internship first, and then go on to an allopathic residency, or they can apply for licensure afterword and ask that their allopathic residency be recognized.

Is this thread on SDN really your source? Is that really as far as you look for information before trying to pass it off as 100% accurate and factual? I hope you do better for your patients, or you may be getting your treatment ideas out of the National Enquirer.

The list of countries that do not recognise DO's is shrinking, and most developed nations DO now recognize them

This is so vaguely worded as to be laughable. Sure, it is a "fact" that a student from any crappy school "may" be able to get a better spot than a given student from a DO school. Is this likely? NO.

The better schools do a very good job of getting competitive spots, and compare favorably. The carib in general do not. It appeared to me from the title of the thread, and the fact that you initially made no seperation of the better offshore schools from the dicier ones. There clearly is a difference, and all carib schools are not created equal.

I have not researched this myself recently, so I cannot give you a reference (and, unlike you, I do not consider other forum postings research, or valid sources of information unless they have something concrete to refer me to), but I do recall that this was not the case, or that they were changing this situation. I will look into it and get back to you.

I brought the school you attend into it because this thread is obviously a very thinnly vieled attempt at saying all the carib is better than the DO option. You clearly left out a very important fact, and that is that the carib has many levels of schools, from excellent to crappy. And, to make a sweeping generalization that Carib>DO was foolish.

I am merely discussing the topic you wanted to discuss. Sorry you don't like being wrong.

I did not start this thread about my school but you are determined to hijack it and make it that.

Please stop. If you have a chip on your shoulder do not take it out on me.

I do believe the Caribbean MD is a better option then DO, If you love DO so much then why are you in the Caribbean?

I post facts and you spin them. Where is the evidence that all DO's will do a year residency in a DO then MD residency? Where I want facts as you do.

GO to the GMC in England as I did to find out, nothing about Lic DO's is there.

Then this site: GOsC Home page: General Osteopathic Council - providing for the regulation of the profession of osteopathy.

Finally why can I not be independent from the school I go to? Only those who go to your school are good enough to post questions like these / discussions like these? I think you are assuming my intentions and you know what assuming does. I never mentioned my school till you did nor was it my intention to make any reference to it.

Finally stop trying to draw me into a pointless argument what you posted is a veil attempt to make me upset LOL just stop


It will not change my opinion as of yet I posted facts and one opion based on a SDN thread yes I did. WOW

__________________
As a student on Value MD not attending one of the Covenanted schools there is no pleasure in posting anymore.

I have a history of always arguing on VMD? Really? So you are a VMD historian now?

The link you provided is absolutely worthless, my friend. That is a link for UK DO's, which are entirely different than US DO's. This, again, shows that you started a topic about which you know very little.

I love the third grade argument "if you love DO so much, then why are you in the carib". Reminds me of grade school, thanks for the nostalgia. But, the fact is I am not in the Carib (remember, I am actually a doctor). Additionally, I NEVER said that DO is better than the carib. I said the better carib schools are certainly as good as DO, but the lesser ones are not even close.

For some questions about licensing, go here: American Osteopathic Association

There are more sources out there, if you care to search.

You have yet to post a fact. You post opinions, masquerading as facts, then back them up with references to forum threads, and a link that has nothing to do with an American DO.

The only reason I got involved in this thread was that I find it insulting for you to attempt to make a blanket statement such as Carib MD is better than DO. The fact is there are schools in the carib whose diplomas are just barely more useful than toilet paper, and for you to attempt to say theser are equivilent to a DO degree is just stupid. The reason I brought your school into this is that you are clearly trying to get in the "I'm better than a DO crowd", when in fact your degree is going to be far, far less valuable, will open far less doors, and will be more stigmatized.

pruritis_ani vbmenu_register("postmenu_536110", true);
Member



I give up with you, you want to draw me into an argument and tell me what my motives are, I could care less about the school I attend I do not sit around with schemes of how to make the school I go to seem better it is what it is, I'm a MS II looking towards clinicals thats all I care about. So I post on my school forum I guess you do not? So what? Everything is not about a particular school some of us think about other things

__________________
As a student on Value MD not attending one of the Covenanted schools there is no pleasure in posting anymore.