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    Polish Medical School -Warsaw & Krakow Particularly

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    Hi
    I am an original graduate of the Medical College of the Jagiellonian University (then the Nicholas Copernicus Academy of Medicine) 1983.
    When applying for admission to these two particular schools you must remember that even though you are applying to an English-language program it is in Poland, and the Polish administrative mentality has not changed for many many years. Everything takes many times longer than you would think it should, but you cannot apply US values to Poland. If the starting date for classes is October 1st, start worrying if you have not heard anything by the end of August. I am completely serious.

    I could explain what happens with the paperwork but it's not worth the time.

    If you have not hear by the 20th of August contact them by telephone. (This is of course assuming that your packet is complete and that every single required document has been received).

    These places run on a very very complicated bueauracracy that will frustrate you many, many times throughout your education. You must keep your cool, because if you make the administrators angry, they will be slow to help you with the documents you need once you want to apply for residency, etc in the US. Always be polite, do not loose your temper, speak Polish with them no matter how poorly you speak it, and be deferent.

    I made it through in their pilot program in Krakow as the first foreign-born individual study student. I worked in both English and Polish and had individual professorial tutelage. I graduated summa cum laude from Krakow in 1983. (Czerwony Diplom)

    If you have any questions about how it will be, or the situation in Poland, please contact me. I am frequently in Poland hold dual US and Polish citizenship, and speak fluent Polish.

    BTW, I am a successful academic diagnostic radiologist practicing at a large Midwest US teaching hospital, teaching residents, medical students and fellows. It's even more do-able now than it was when I graduated!!!!!

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    Did you have US citizenship when you went to US for residency? Is it much harder for IMG to obtain residency in US without citizenship or green card? Also how good is polish medical education as far as 3-4yr clinical rotation is concerned? do you think MUW or JU prepares English program students with everything they need to know for successful residency in US after graduation? Thanks alot for the response!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUW501 View Post
    Did you have US citizenship when you went to US for residency? Is it much harder for IMG to obtain residency in US without citizenship or green card? Also how good is polish medical education as far as 3-4yr clinical rotation is concerned? do you think MUW or JU prepares English program students with everything they need to know for successful residency in US after graduation? Thanks alot for the response!
    Yes, I am a US citizen and was at the time of my medical school attendance. Absolutely. You have to prepare for and do very well on the USMLE Steps examination. My training was excellent but I also worked alone and independently to personally examine patients, follow their treatment and discuss individual cases with my mentors. Most foreign medical schools are NOT equivalent to the US system. The Polish and German systems are equivalent. These programs give you the knowledge you need but perhaps not enough practical hands on experience. In US internship, you are expected to jump right in and start working with an armamentarium of skills that you normally acquire in medical school. In the European programs these skills are taught in the internship year. This may be slightly different now, but I know that students that come directly from European medical school WITHOUT doing the internship, are not as well prepared.

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    When should I expect to receive the annual schedule/orientation schedule/textbook lists/instructions for class registration/timetables? I start school in October and have received NOTHING from them since the official letter saying I was enrolled. Now I am worried if maybe I missed registering for classes or something else important. I have attempted to e-mail as well as call the offices and I have received absolutely no response from them. I'm really worried now because I wonder if I am even going to be attending this school with this little information....

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermolliex View Post
    When should I expect to receive the annual schedule/orientation schedule/textbook lists/instructions for class registration/timetables? I start school in October and have received NOTHING from them since the official letter saying I was enrolled. Now I am worried if maybe I missed registering for classes or something else important. I have attempted to e-mail as well as call the offices and I have received absolutely no response from them. I'm really worried now because I wonder if I am even going to be attending this school with this little information....
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    I attended there many years ago, but you are correct, you should be receiving this information. You need to call them, remembering that the Dean's office is only open from about 8AM until 1-2PM Krakow time. This means, you need to call 6-9 hours earlier depending on where you are in the US, and requires you to wake up early to call them. They should have returned from summer vacation this week, so try this week and or next week. Classes probably start October 1st. I would plan to be in Krakow a week before classes start in order to find a place to stay (unless you are staying in the dorms). You need to orient yourself to Krakow itself, especially if you are American. You should get your plane ticket now if you already don't have it. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermolliex View Post
    When should I expect to receive the annual schedule/orientation schedule/textbook lists/instructions for class registration/timetables? I start school in October and have received NOTHING from them since the official letter saying I was enrolled. Now I am worried if maybe I missed registering for classes or something else important. I have attempted to e-mail as well as call the offices and I have received absolutely no response from them. I'm really worried now because I wonder if I am even going to be attending this school with this little information....
    This website lists the required textbooks for the Polish med schools www dot medicalbooks dot pl

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    Can someone please tell me more about MUW, I've heard that their class schedule is demanding with very little free time, e.g. classes from 8 am to 8 pm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagódka View Post
    Can someone please tell me more about MUW, I've heard that their class schedule is demanding with very little free time, e.g. classes from 8 am to 8 pm?
    Last years timetable was 8am to 8pm on a monday (with breaks of course), but the rest of the week seemed similar to a typical university schedule
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    Loans for Tuition - WUM - what to do?

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    I have a quick question for all the Americans that studied at WUM. How did you guys go about loans? paying the tuition etc?
    I've been researching and, for example, FAFSA/Direct PLUS Loan does not apply for WUM. Do you guys have any other ideas etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mani92 View Post
    Last years timetable was 8am to 8pm on a monday (with breaks of course), but the rest of the week seemed similar to a typical university schedule
    Is it normal to have class at night or is it just for the English program students?

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