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    UK person applying for 4 year course this year - accepted by GMC? Hard?

    Hi, i'm from uk, applied for the 4 year medicine course in Warsaw but suddenly realised, after googling, that it may not be an accepted amount of years for GMC registration in the UK and EU. Does anyone know if this is true?

    Also, if there is anyone currently on the 4 year course, is it so difficult, the brain simply gives up, on top of that, learning a new language?

    I'm considering applying for the 6 year course, but there's an entrance exam, and its only 11 days away!! (as read on the website), its a bit annoying as I wanted to apply for this year.

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    Out of theoreticals, do you find clinical education satisfactory in Warsaw med? Can you make a comparison, for instance with that of US med schools? And are the quality/quantity of clinicals the same in 4 and 6-year programs, or is it better in 4 year program and not that much in 6 year?

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    hey thanks for all the info, I really appreciate that. I'm glad to hear language would be less important especially with the course itself being really intensive. Are any of the 4-year medical students you know from the UK and do they know if its confirmed GMC accredited?. Having called them up myself, they didn't give a clear answer, but said the 6 year was definitely accredited, but Warsaw say they add up your uni degree credits so it brings up the total required from accredidation.

    Also, did you move into halls in your first year? How was it? close to the hospitals, how to do they allocate your neighbour dorms or it just random? Re-phrasing that, will the people around be internationals too or Polish?

    I've had my freshers experience (mainly the 1st year) already from my university here in the UK, I did chemistry which was tough, and a lot less partying in the 3rd year meant a much better grade so having learnt from that, I'll definitely prioritise the course.

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    to bidiboom, any courses theoretical related, like in all eastern european countries, it's taught VERY WELL. they literally give u the books and their own power points and expect u to know the books and powerpoints inside out for all tests/exams. and even then, by knowing everything, u can still get a 3 or 3.5. so theoreticals no problem.

    clinicals, that's a different matter. in my opinion the education's very goood. but it really depends on who you get for clinicals in the hospitals, most doctors are very well educated, and they will teach u very well. however, the problem comes due to the fact that u don't speak polish (unless ur polish), so there's a lot of time wasted during clinicals for ur teacher/classmate to translate what the patient says to english. so u might lose class time due to that. also, because u dont speak polish, u won't be getting real clinical experience. since the doctor is only going to translate what he thinks is necessary for you, and many other things the patient mentionned you won't know. but the cure for this is that, originally we had polish language for 2 years, now it's 3 years. and after ur 3rd year, when ull have ur clinicals, u can ask and conduct almost all history takings by urself (if u learn diligently), for me this is how i do it, i learn polish as much as i can, so i have an advantage over my peers, although my grammar is probably completely crap, but the patients respect that im trying to speak, and they understand what im trying to convery.

    on comparison with US/canadian med schools. i'd say theoreticals, european schools much better, hands down. (i know teachers that can literally recite u every line on every page of their professional specialist books) clinical wise, i believe, just because the education in states is in english, the clinicals will be better there. ofcourse, on a side note, when u enter into WUM, as a med student, ur allowed to go to hospital from ur first year, and ask to join in operations, and accompany docs on duty if u so wish. (this is probably the best way to learn) i had a roommate who's in 2nd year currently, spent her last year in orthopedic hospital volunteering, she knows more than any student who passed ortho.

    regarding AMOUNT of clinicals. i personally do not know the answer. but logically, i would think the 6y have more clinical time. this is true even for other theoretical courses, we (6y) have more class hours etc etc... (but we also get asked more on our exams sometimes)
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    to englanduk: there is 1 guy i believe from the uk in the 4y prog, i don't know him personally too well. so i don't have his contacts. but another thing about 6y prog's
    cert. u gotta remember english 6y prog is different from polish 6y program, this is the case for the california board, which they specifically approve english divisions of specific polish med schools, although all polish programs are accepted.

    im assuming by halls u mean the dorms. and no, i never moved to the dorms, cause i went to warsaw on a very short notice. and it's not close to the school. u have to understand, WUM is completely spread out in the whole city. we have like 5-6 teaching hospitals, and centrum dydactyczny (new buidling, close to deans office for most classes), also the prosectorium (for anatomy, histology, microbio, most 1st year courses) it's very spread out. but from the dorms, 20-30 mins by tram/bus will get u to any of the places no prob. the dorm address is ul. karolkowa 84, check it on google maps. dc/dean's office is ul. zwirki wigury 61, banacha szpital (central clinical hospital) ul. banacha 1. the prosectorium is near the train station. check out the distances on google maps if u want.

    allocation: they allocate based on whether ur eng div student or not. the karolkowa dorm has 2 buildings, 1 front for all polish kids. 2nd behind for some mostly eng division and erasmus and other exchange students. u'll be put there for sure. rooms are ok and kinda new, but frigging expensive for all their worth, that's why i live outside with someone, much cheaper and better. btw i won't check this site too much, if u have facebook or something drop me a pm with ur add, and u can ask me questions there, otherwise, see u in warsaw, and most likely we'll grab a beer together, since all the old students welcome the new ones in the beginning. gl!

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    congrats in getting accepted . Im a student from england wanting to study the 4year medicine course in warsaw. if its ok i just want to ask you a few questions. What degree did you finish at what level, did you have to pass an entrance exam for the 4 year medical course in poland. have you been to warsaw to check it out, are the people friendly. could you please send me some info on how about you went on to apply to the course. I have already been to poznan this year and it seemed ok but people do say that warsaw is a much friendly place. I will hopefully be applying for the 2012 year course, i could have applied for the 2011 entry although the deadline date passed.

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    i did chemistry bsc, 2.2 in the end and no we didn't have an entrance exam, but they look at your individual module grades from year 1 of uni and decide on the module content themselves and results. I haven't yet been to Warsaw, I know a lot of people who've been to Poland and they say its great, the people are apparently a lot friendly than in the UK. They show interest in foreigners rather than unwelcome them. The transport system I hear is quite good, but not so much the taxis, I've heard stories they're a bit dodgy.

    I applied direct through the main website, although you can only apply between May and the end of June so the signing up bit will be shaded off. They'll give you instructions but if you're in any doubt, you can speak to Anna who takes care of admissions and she's really helpful. Mostly she replies straight away but other times she may forget to reply to your query.

    I can't say much though until I'm there studying and getting the experience of the city, etc, but if you do apply next year, then I will hopefully have passed my first year and be there to show you around.

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    Great thanks for getting back to me, i have completed a biomedical science degree, all thanks to GOD ive come out with good results. Please throughout the year in Warsaw stay in touch, my facebook account name is Booter Khan. Let me know how things are. thanks

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    Hi, i am interested in applying to the 4 year med courses at Poznan, Warsaw, and Jagiellonian University, however GMC website only states the 6 year courses as being accredited, do you or anyone you know have official correspondence from the GMC about these 4 year courses and whether they are definitely accredited

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    apply 4 them, 4 warsaw as ther is no entrance exam for the 4 year, poznan has a entrance exam and interview i dont know about the other uni. gmc in the uk have said the universities are registered so dont worry,




    Quote Originally Posted by gradapplicant View Post
    Hi, i am interested in applying to the 4 year med courses at Poznan, Warsaw, and Jagiellonian University, however GMC website only states the 6 year courses as being accredited, do you or anyone you know have official correspondence from the GMC about these 4 year courses and whether they are definitely accredited

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    Hi there, congrats for getting in. Would you be able to tell me how hard and competitive it was to get into the 4 year course , will get accept a high 2.2 degree?

    And my final question, as you have been there for a while now, how are you finding the course and city.

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    Hi englanduk Im sure you will be in your 3rd year of 4 year MD. I am also from Uk and thinking to apply to 4 year programme but the problem is tution and living fees do you know if i can get the loan for warsaw in UK?

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