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    mdva09 is offline Junior Member 510 points
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    So there is no one who is doing rotations in the us?

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    I asked if there were any students who are doing rotations few weeks a go and it seems like there are none. Please respond if you are in rotations for 4 year program.

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    Do you mean specifically from Lodz, from Poland, or from any foreign school? There are a ton of people doing rotations, but your question is pretty broad.
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    you also have to take into account that not all people studying at Lodz, or any polish medical school for that matter, are members of valuemd.

    try emailing AIM and seeing if they will put you in contact with someone doing a rotation in the US now. at the very least they will give you an email of someone who has already graduated so you can ask them.

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    Furthermore, any students doing home rotations in the US and Canada would have already returned to Poland. I do not attend medical school at Lodz, but at CMUJ, students typically return home from July to the end of January and return to Poland in February to finish off their fourth year in PL. HTH.

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    Just to reply to Rotten--not true for us in Lodz. Yes my class does have students who are in the States for rotations as 4 year programme students. The only time they have to return to Poland is for 5 weeks in our 4th year for some mandatory rotations that are only done here in Lodz. Other than that they are in the States or have the option of being in the UK or can do rotations in all 3 countries. Depends on whatever you arrange for yourself. In the fall my class will have one student also doing an elective in Canada and later next year hopefully some of us will be in Brazil or Belize. Electives can be done where ever you can arrange them--the Dean just has to approve--so it comes down to how much work one wants to put into it. Oh also this past year we had a member of my class do all of his rotations in Norway.

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    Here's some food for thought:

    1)bgcox---you've been a member since April 2007 but decide to write now after almost two years???

    2)As I have stated before, MUL is not approved by Cali...at least my guess will be not for another few years.

    3) The student you are talking about: Which program did he match into?? The reason I doubt is that word is he is applying for residency but who's to say that he actually matched into a residency program?? Is he ECFMG certified?? Did he do all his rotations in the US or was it all in UK and then he did the other 2 minor classes in poland(believe me I know which two classes those are)??? Things like that.

    4)everyone must be aware of the financial burden of the WOW now $700/week cost is----at that price, I might as well be in the US or Caribbean where like the big three their degrees are Licensible in all 50 states unlike MUL's degree---Student loans are no joke---once you have them, you have them for life....it's not like a credit card where you can get rid of them if you file for bankruptcy...be aware of student loan debt

    5)all4uismile---posts the more accurate and real aspect of the problems associated with AIM/MUL providing rotations let alone back to back rotations without missing graduation date---although I find the USMLE requirement of having 85 on step 1 as a fallacy to do rotations in the US---This is plain and simple, if a student passes the boards they are eligible to do rotations in the US no matter what your score was.the school may slot you based on how well you did in comparison to other students but here's the ironic matter how many students from MUL finish step 1 and compete for the same rotations when there really is not that much competition among the students for those same spots???---Word is also that AIM does not have US rotations---please clarify this all4uismile---would appreciate your honest answer.

    6)wow MUL is teaching so well that many students are passing the step 1 and even attempting step 2...wow that's a kick in my teeth for the level of improvement that the school went through oh say within the last 2 years...please i've known students there who have no clue what is Br and kernig's sign or the most common cause of death in CAE patients or what to give a patient who's undergoing a vasospasm during a SAH.--- not to say that there aren't smart students at MUl---but the real fact remains that students are the ones who teach themselves and is attributed to their hard work and not directly OR indirectly related to the learning experience provided by MUL

    7)MUl was definitely not my top choice...you'll definitely learn on your own...and of course, you can insinuate that ppl like me "complain the loudest are never happy no matter where they are" ( just like donkayci)but I'm pointing the main points so that everyone can be aware

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    hi plzz help

    HI. I really really need some help. I have been accepted to MUA and medical univ of lodz..wher should i go? i have researched abt both the schools but just not sure.

    MUA- core and electives in the US. All cores are not greenbook (some states wont allow u to practice if u dont have those) and electives you have manage where u go. Has 5th sem for usmle prep and u take it at the right time.

    LODZ- cores in the US and all greenbook for sure. most electives in the UK (have to do it- schools rule cause there are many 1 or 2 weeks that us wont allow) but we can do 3 electives in the US by the end. Us based curriculum 2 sem a year and summer off but the sem end in june, have to study for usmle after june and take it b4 enough so we can start 3rd year rotations in october..everything is back to back so nothing would be delayed.

    plzzzzz help, any advice is appreciated..in a serious confusion here

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    Ahem---I dont know where to begin with this one but:

    Lodz is US based curriculum---sure in terms of timeline but not in terms of medical education

    tru everything is back to back

    can you afford $700 a week for US/UK rotations??

    Wow cores are greenbook in lodz and not in MUA??? reallly??....highly doubtful since I know friends especially one who is doing rotations here in us in greenbook hospitals provided by MUA and not at the sky high price like AIM charges you just for the tuition---granted MUA does not have federal stafford loans but not providing greenbook rotations---highly doubtful on your statement.---finance wise, you're on your own with MUA---check out their website oh and by the way the list the names of students who have matched into residency programs. they have a success rate better than MUL by comparison.

    you have to make the choice ultimately...make it the right one

    One additional comment:
    MUA (nevis) is approved for clinical rotations more than 12 weeks when you check out the NY medical license board website as opposed to MUL which all4uismile has described accurately the situation with new york---make sure you know your facts are checked before posting docguya
    Last edited by hcg1234; 08-10-2009 at 06:02 AM. Reason: Additional comments

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    hcg1234 is offline Junior Member 510 points
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    One additional comment:

    MUA (nevis) is approved for clinical rotations more than 12 weeks when you check out the NY medical license board website as opposed to MUL which all4uismile has described accurately the situation with new york---make sure you know your facts are checked before posting docguya

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    hcg1234 is offline Junior Member 510 points
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    One additional comment:
    MUA (nevis) is approved for clinical rotations more than 12 weeks when you check out the NY medical license board website as opposed to MUL which all4uismile has described accurately the situation with new york---make sure you know your facts are checked before posting docguya

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