I dont recommend it, very bad adminitration
I know the school year just started but was wondering if people are settled in yet? What's it like? Recommended?
The threads for that school are like hair cells in the otolith organs: 1/2 excited, 1/2 inhibited.
I dont recommend it, very bad adminitration
Can you elaborate? Are you currently attending Lodz? I hear it's not so bad aside from the transportation issue, time management...
TIME MANAGEMENT is one of the major problems, i have a car and still i have problems trying to cram in a week time everything i need to know anout the limb (4 yr M.D. program). the 6yr program is a lot easier and u have more time for things, the program in unorganized and polish system is different then back in North America, testing is different, lectures suck but you have to attend them all, miss a few classes and you fail that class no matter how "well" you are going in it. it is tuff i must say adjusting and gettin through medical school, it has its up (experienceing living in Europe) and its downs, (no time to explore Europe) and everything is much more expensive and quality of stuff is crappier (not to sound materialistic, it is just how it is here and i am trying to give you an insite). night life is good here which is another distraction (not good when in MEDICAL SCHOOL lol). the testing is weird we have "test" that basically are not for you passing the class, they are so that you are qualified to take the final or so you don't Loose points on your final which is the only major test that really counts, thats right ONE TEST FOR EACH CLASS is what determines if you pass , oh and your attendence. i hope that helps in usderstanding it here in MUL
I just had a couple of questions because Im planning on applying there for Fall 08 Are the profs there pretty good with their english, what are the living conditions like, and are the classes more difficult then those classes would be here. Also how's the campus like are the facilities good and comparable to something a person would find in the states. And are u from the states as well
i second mannr comments...please
i third mannr...i'm also going fall 08
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Last edited by Bluebox8; 11-26-2010 at 07:43 AM.
well upon reading many replies and questions and comments about the school here in Lodz, I would like to touch on a few things. I rarely check ValueMD as of lately, because I am a current 2nd year student in Lodz (4-year program) and the work-load is tough, but whenever I do browse this site, I am amazed and at the same time, shocked, at how much garbage I am seeing from students who are not even enrolled here. So I'd like to say a few things.
First off, not to open a old scar or to bring back something from the past, but I made a post earlier on this year about the 'situation' with housing here in Lodz at the student's dorm. I know the problem was resolved within the first week or two of you all being here, and I just want to apologize for singling out a couple people at AIM who are actually working their tails off to see that we all get the right treatment we should upon arriving here. I was quick to point fingers, but it turns out that the school was not relaying proper info back to the States with available spots for housing over here, and the reason you all found out so late was because it was a shock to AIM also. I had a sit-down with the financial aid advisor at AIM,and after seeing this person bust her tail off while over here that first week of school in September, she tried to make sure you were all taken care of...i sure hope that things are going well for you all now, with studies, living arrangements, etc etc. Some of you moved out, because hey, some of us just don't like the 'dorm life' and would rather live on our own and have the privacy and probably even find a place for cheaper...to each his own.
Now, onto bigger and better things. The school and city themselves...after living IN the city of Lodz for the last year and a half, the only thing I can really complain about is the construction and sometimes poor communication links...the EU gave Poland a lump of money recently, and almost all cities are putting that cash to use, mainly as Lodz is doing, to rebuild the infrastructure...it's frustrating to have to take a bus and D-tour 4 times in the morning to get to class, but hey, that's part of city-life, and the construction is FINALLY almost done.
The school itself and the program...for the kids in first year (i'm talking strictly 4-year program because I'm in the 4-year program)...you will probably find that going to classes is useless and that you'd get more studying on your own...that these 'tests' are also useless and really mean nothing. Rules are rules however, and if this hadn't been a problem in previous years (yes even my year had to go to all classes for points), then administration may be a little more leniant towards attendance. Tests, as most have just written (and failed) the Gross Anatomy exam, are going to be hard and never let up. Speaking from experience, I did not pass anatomy the first time around, but did on retake. Don't worry as to when your retake will be..that is what our advisors are for and they let you all know by email. And if you are concerned, then just send a simple email asking "any idea of when the retake is scheduled for?". Retake period starts when 2nd semester starts and you will know in advance. It's medical school people..we are all here (or at least some of us are) for a reason...to get the most out of it and to do it to the end! The language may be an issue with our professors, and this unfortunately, is a real pity, because even WE feel that when we ask a question sometimes, the person on the other side has no idea whatsoever on what we are saying. Trust me, it gets better in second year, and that is one MAJOR plus we've endured this year...teachers and profs who can really get a feel of what students are asking and inquiring about.
The testing system is not the greatest here, but after speaking to a friend who is in his final year in Warsaw, their's are just the same. Everything is weighted on the final exam...and yes, even a certain number of "points" gained throughout the semester are required to be able to sit for the exam...this is their way of knowing that you know your stuff, or are at LEAST making an attempt to know the materials. And since the one thing that MUL doesn't offer is prep for USMLE, think of this extra studying as preparation for that. Yes, failing a final exam is not what we all want to do...i cannot sit here and say that I haven't, because i certainly have....but maybe they give us the 3 attempts because they know some may not get it all the first time?? I don't know, that is just a thought...i ask myself the same question time and time again. Some are here to really help you, some could care less...just know why you are all here, and make the best of it.
Anatomy was hard, not going to lie...the hardest course I've taken in medical school...oh wait, no....just wait until 2nd year!!! Not to scare anyone...but it's very demanding..and if some of you think you don't have enough time for this and that in the first year, then start preparing yourself for an overwhelming first semester of second year. The pubs can wait...yes we all want to be social, and if you have great time management, then my hat's off to you!
I have enjoyed my time here thus far. The people are nice...almost all polish (younger generation) can speak some form of english. We will always have our ups and downs...times when we just want to punch in a brick wall, times when we want to give up because nothing seems to be going right with profs, teachers, colleagues, marks, etc etc etc...the reward is the final prize..an MD degree.
If there are any questions, any at all, please do not hesitate to send a personal message or reply to this post. I hope things here in Lodz are going well....enjoy the time off inbetween semesters, and travel as much as you can...Poland is a great link for other countries. There are also mini weekend trips planned by one of the Polish teachers, and last year we visited 3 cities...saturday and sunday trips.. so i dont' want to hear people posting "there's no time for travel or free time..."...it's all in how you manage your time and know when you need to take a day off to be with some friends. The program will only continue to get better and better, and it is up to us who are here now to voice our opinions to both MUL and to AIM as to how they can improve any flaws or stumps we may encounter.
(sorry for making this long...)
Stal.......... thanks a lot for your insight I appreciate it. Where are you from? I only ask because it interests me knowing peoples backrounds for example a person from the US might see school in Poland as mediocre or poor where as a person from a less developed country think that the school is amazing. Thanks for the response.