Thread: Anyone currently in Lodz?

I wanted to hear from someone actually at Lodz right now and see how they like the program. Do you know anyone at Lodz who is doing clinicals in the united states?

Thanks.

Try a search on Lodz that will give you all the information you need, regards clinicals, if you are thinking about going through AIM, they will feed you all sorts to enroll - fact is its possible, but not likely.

As for the carrib MD Vs. US DO. i think you will find it to be a matter of preferance.

Originally Posted by DR_DGB_NYQ

As for the carrib MD Vs. US DO. i think you will find it to be a matter of preferance.

I would beg to differ. There are advantages and disadvantages to each route.

In certain choice specalties (in the US), DOs clearly appear to be outcompeting IMGs. These include PM and R, Emergency Medicine and Diagnostic Radiology. In others, such as surgery and surgery subspecialties they appear to fare worse than IMGs, who it should be noted are outcompeted by US MDs. See also this post.

Exactly

Matter of preferance meaning what he/she prefers to do in the future, as if he/she intends on practicing medicine/surgery outside of the US, DO is definatly not an option.

need not beg to differ on personal grounds.

Originally Posted by DR_DGB_NYQ

Exactly

Matter of preferance meaning what he/she prefers to do in the future, as if he/she intends on practicing medicine/surgery outside of the US, DO is definatly not an option.

need not beg to differ on personal grounds.

You may well be right. However, the inclusion of US DO schools in the last WHO directory as medical schools might even knock down that wall a bit.

please correct me if i am wrong, but US DO's can only practice medicine in the US at this present time?.

Originally Posted by DR_DGB_NYQ

please correct me if i am wrong, but US DO's can only practice medicine in the US at this present time?.

Originally, yes. But, they have been slowly making inroads abroad, including apparently the UK. See this page.

Yes i can see where people would become a bit confuzzled with the DO's, as you know a DO over here is not like in the US.

maybe all DO's should train in medicine and surgery, or just in Ost.

May i ask, as i am unsure, but are there limits to what a DO can do in the US? e.g. surgical specialities etc.?

Thanks

Originally Posted by DR_DGB_NYQ

Yes i can see where people would become a bit confuzzled with the DO's, as you know a DO over here is not like in the US.

maybe all DO's should train in medicine and surgery, or just in Ost.

May i ask, as i am unsure, but are there limits to what a DO can do in the US? e.g. surgical specialities etc.?

Thanks

Originally, osteopathy was founded as an anti-surgical method of medicine (see their virtual museum). This is still reflected somewhat in their training, as they are taught some OMM (osteopathic manual manipulation) during medical school. However, curriculum-wise, there aren't too many other differences between osteopathic and allopathic medical schools in the US, especially as DOs gained practice rights in all 50 US states by 1973.

The prinicipal differences apart from OMM is that US DO schools are expanding like mushrooms after a rain storm. US allopathic schools, by contrast, have barely begun to expand. This is important because there aren't enough DO only residencies in the US. As a result, DOs have been actively competing with IMGs for residencies (and as I pointed out above and in the link, not doing badly at all in certain fields).

They are able to do surgical specialties and subspecialties, both MD (that is ACGME) and DO only (AOA) residencies. However, there are very, very few AOA surgery and surgical subspecialty residencies.

Many ACGME surgical residencies are still reluctant to accept DOs to their programs, as their governing bodies have an institutional memory of when DOs where making their money condemning surgeons.

As a result, when one finds DOs in ACGME surgical residencies, they are usually in government sponsored (e.g. military) programs, where the rules specifically prohibit discrimination based on the degree. (That and the fact that DOs, in theory, have to complete a so-called traditional internship in order to get licensed. However, virtually all government sponsored residency programs, whether ACGME or AOA will meet this requirement for DOs.)

EDIT: Nearly forgot. They have their own licensing examinations (COMLEX), but are also eligible to sit for the USMLEs. Many take the USMLEs in addition to their COMLEX, as this makes them more competitive candidates for ACGME residencies.

Also, see the wikipedia article.