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Old 04-27-2006, 10:45 PM
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It's never a waste of time to visit a school... if a student relies on just what s/he reads or sees, that is poor research. As undergrads, we did not choose any school, and we should not as graduates; A brochure, forum,.. anything or anyone will not tell you what a school is like for YOU.
So, how long do you suggest a person visit?

Do you have any questions that a potential students should ask while at the school? How will the visitor know whether the school is telling it all? Will the student be able to have access to, say, the financial records/history of the school during the visit? Will the visit allow the potential student to accurately determine the success and viability of the school?

What exactly will be the info that they will get about the school besides the living conditions? Should they stay a week to really find out if the teaching is any good? How would they know if the teaching is any good?
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I have read your posts, and am interested in knowing more about you. Are you a FMG? OR Are you a physician? What is your interest in either MUA-B or/and St. Chris? Besides the past history of the schools, do you have information re: MUA-B future? Please don't say that a past history defines a school's future or business... there would be quite a bit of businesses and schools not functioning; Are you a school official interested in bringing students to your school by bad-mouthing other schools? WHAT IS YOUR INTEREST?

It's never a waste of time to visit a school... if a student relies on just what s/he reads or sees, that is poor research. As undergrads, we did not choose any school, and we should not as graduates; A brochure, forum,.. anything or anyone will not tell you what a school is like for YOU.
I am a resident, and an FMG. I am not trying to recruit students to my school. In fact, I never mention the school I attended.

My intentions are simple. To help those of us that go offshore to avoid the myriad of potential pitfalls that face us. The end goal that we all have in common is to practice medicine in the US, and there are many potential obstacles to this goal.

I stand by the assertation that visiting some schools is a waste of time. Why? Because certain schools have an unacceptable risk profile. There are many, many schools, that offer low risk to students. By this I mean that there are schools with currently licensed grads in all 50 states, schools with excellent USMLE pass rates and residency placements, schools that have been around for years.

After seeing what happened to the SC students, one should be aware that there is a very real possibility that a medical school WILL fail. By attending a new school, or a school with less than stellar administration or reputation, you are merely increasing that risk. So, while history does not define a school/business, it certainly can be a valid point of reference. Also valid is a LACK of history.

You accuse me of bad mouthing schools. I simply do not say good things about bad schools. And, by bad I do not even care about things such as locale, teachers, how happy the students are, etc...these things are all secondary to the ultimate goal of getting a license in all 50 states. If a school has not demonstrated it can do that, by my definition, it is a bad school.

You also imply that I have something to gain by posting here. Not the case. Unlike you, I have no vested interest in the recruiting success of my school. All the students of the smaller, newer schools will directly benefit from encouraging more students to come share the risk. More students= more money, which is good for the current students and admin. My only interest is to keep students focused on what is important, and to make sure that if they do make a stupid decision, they are at least informed of how stupid it may be.

As far as MUA-B goes...yes, it is a waste of time to visit this school. Why? Because students should truly not be considering it anyway. There are several schools in the carib (AUC, Ross, SABA, SGU), austrailia, europe, etc...that are far better choices. This school is suspect for several reasons, including the new relationship with a school that has a history of failing it's students, the unknown consequences stateside of this affiliation, the fact that there are no licensed grads to speak of and the fact that grads are outright banned from several states currently, ant that this list is very likely going to be growing in the future.

So, while you may be happy there, and that is wonderful for you, the fact remains that this school is a very, very poor choice. Hopefully this choice will work out well for you, but at best, you will have a severely limited degree that will keep you from working in several states. At worst, you could have more licensing headaches than we even can begin to imagine. Heck, maybe the SC relationship will get you in hot water with the ECFMG, who knows!

Not trying to bad mouth anything. Merely pointing out what is truly important to potential medical students, and how MUA-B is far below standards in this regard.
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to p.ani, get off your high horse and sell it elsewhere, grow up and quit bashing!
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to p.ani, get off your high horse and sell it elsewhere, grow up and quit bashing!
Not bashing, telling it how it is. Don't like it? Tough.

There are a LOT of SC students out there that wished they listened to advice like this, advice that they too chose to ignore. Now look at the situation they are in.

You don't have to agree with me, and I could care less what you decide. But, the reality is that there are a LOT of important things that students should consider as a minimum requirement for an offshore school, and the new schools (including MUA-B) do not meet those requirements.

So instead of talking about my "high horse" and claiming I am "bashing" just because I am of the opinion that this school (and many others) should never be considered, why don't you address my issues with your school? Oh, that's right...because you CAN'T. No matter what you say, your school is still new, is still affiliated with a school that let ALL of the students down (btw, did you hear the nonsense your dean was spouting in an attempt to recruit SC students? She sounded pretty misiformed for somebody in her position....), still has no licenses, and still will restrict you from practicing in many states IF you happen to beat the odds and make it that far...
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Old 04-28-2006, 11:38 AM
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Once mua-b took over st. chris, did it not also take over st. chris liabilities? I dont think it is possible to just have the beneficial things without taking the liabilities. So with the discussion of lawsuits now going on in st. chris forum, how deep is mua-b pocket? If mua-b is having troubles paying the clinical sites, how is it going to be when lawyers come looking? (I dont know how a school visit by a potential student is going to address this.)
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I am hearing from reliable sources that MUA Belize pretty much shuts down once the students reach clinicals due to lack of finances. Maybe this is why they decided to take on L's part of SC. It should be interesting when they go bankrupt in Luton as well.
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Teri has pulled out its loan program for Belize...Students beware!!! i had applied to Mua-B too...Thank god, I am not going there..what a waste of $75USD app fee.
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Old 06-21-2006, 10:33 AM
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How do you know that? Did you find out during the app process or did you hear it from someone?

(btw Thanks for tip almost cost me 75 too..)
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I was thinking of going too

I was thinking about going but after reading all this i changed my mind as well - thank God.

I just heard the school actually did shut down, there was locks on the doors and stuff, apparently the school failed to make payment to the building owner. This school is such a scam glad i was not suckered into it. I hate to be like the st chris students. SInce both these schools came together then i guess its only fair to assume one administration is no better then the other even if it pulled out it still leaves me to wonder how a school gets into a merger or acquistion with another school knows for its corruption. Oh well glad i don't have to deal with it.
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Three people went to MUA B and is now in my SGU class. There are obvious reasons why people do so...
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