Thread: step by step ranking on the basis of experience.

hi to all
here aim graduated for timisoara last year.now aim running a
medical education/recruiting consultancy. had many friends form many other university in Romania and many chit chats with them regrading the
the standard of the university's all over the places here we will only discuss about the Romania
1. there r 2 type med school in Romania one medical university and other medical faculty.be very careful when u chose since the faculties have problems in the past.
2.if u rank all of them or the mains one from up to down on the basis of what Romanians and foreign students say. the list will be as follows

1. Carol Davila Bucharest
2 Cluj
3 timisoara= yash
4 trug mures
all the above ones are medical university
then is the faculties
oradea= sibiu=criova=constanta
more or less there standards are same except that of oradea which in one very abnormal move had abolished the fees for EU students.
but let me be assured to u the fees agreement between the university and ministry is very sensitive subject .i do seriously believe that any university can increase Ur fees any time without any notice to u
so if u want to come to Romania to do med school try Bucharest, cluj and timisoara
only they r worth. even all they Romanians say so

you all can do all the admission related work on Ur own but the problem will be the language and that u don't know where the things are and in romania there r certain way to do the things .
or u can hire the agent but if Ur hiring the agent they can not grantee u the sure admission if u stuck think and try to find the way . never lie or miss any paper which is needed/ forge any thing. may be u will not land in jail but u can lose years of education..

here i end now if u have any question let me know. i don't charge any thing for advise but for service i do.for me to guide anyone is only on the basis of ground realty and situation.
bye

I believe Craiova's is a medical university as well. At least that is the title of the university (Medicine & Pharmacy). Do you know anything about the consolidation program being planned? I.e. Oradea to merge with Cluj, not sure about others.

Also I don't understand what you mean regarding Oradea abolishing fees for EU students. There are a couple of EU students on the boards here that attend Oradea and pay fees.

I guess you are living in Romania now? Are you doing a residency?

hey
what i wanted to say is that oradea has decreased the fees to 1500eurs whic is very less as compare to the other unis.
any way yes the criova is uni iam sorry if i moentioned it as faculty but
its level is more or less like faculty

and no iam not doing resedency at the moment but i will do it in future but for sure not in romania .
cheers

I think there are a couple people on these boards that are curious to hear about Timisoara. It's supposed to be a good program but if I'm not mistaken is Romanian language only? But Timisoara is supposed to be one of the nicest cities in Europe.

anyway, welcome to the boards, I think you are trying to set up an agency from the sound of it but seems like you have some pretty accurate knowledge and can offer some specialized assistance that so far seems to be lacking from agencies so I wish you success. Just watch out because these boards can be hostile to this type of thing but I do believe there is a niche for it

hey dear
waltfw first of all i would like to help the peoples for getting any consultation which is for free . i am very happy to provide regard less anybody would like to hire me or not. i already told peoples my suggestion and consultation is for free but my services r not . i don't think there is some thing Wong in ruining true and honest consultation on the basis true ethics.
the English section at timsoara or any other Romanian uni is there have more or lees same way to do the things .the the way timisoara have chose to do the the things is very unique. first u should understand the way and the reason u will get the point. in timisoara when u enrolled Ur self in English section . u will see its only English section for the sake of English speaking student and teachers.
but in realty on the papers and diploma and everything u studying is in Romanian .since Ur end diploma will be in Romanian .
but what timisoara uni do at the end they take Ur English exam which they already had validates with ministry and every thing, since in timisoara there is department of linguistics with the German and English and French.
now be very careful any Romanian university even Bucharest have no right to award any English degree . if they do its not valid even by WHO for get about the other Bord's.
all the the university follow the same way to get there degrees recognized all over the world
as form to the rule book from WHO all medical student should be Abel communicate with the official/mother language of the patient in the area where they studied the med school
for example if Ur in India or Pakistan there they have lot mother languages but the official is English so they getaway with it .
but Romania and other countries can not until and unless the university's have arranged some kind of special arrangement with there respective medical broads.and then WHO.
in most of Romania or other EU university the instruction of study is English in English section that's it
other then that in timisoara its compulsory to learn Romania for first three year so that so can take patients history form 4Th year onward which is compulsory on the papers and off the papers. i strongly believe that all most all the university in Romania and rest of EU follow the same way of getting there diplomas recognized
just imagine to practice in USA/ UK as Romania nation who studyed in Romanian has to give TOEFL or ILETS or A2-B2 English level to get board certified .
now what logic it makes English speaking student form any country was taught by the teachers in English who do have basic English degree equivalent to TOEFL_etc( whether they can speak /teach in English or not that's another story i think all most all of them can at least in timisoara/ buackrest/cluj / where i have been)
that's the story of English section in Romania or in other places wheather u like it or not. but as u see its for Ur own good since by the above way Ur geting recognized all over the world with only the exception of Greace

now the Greek story
what aim telling is from the Greek students in timisoara before there was the time when there was lot of Greeks use to come to timsoara to study med sh cool till the time there was only Romania section . when in timisoara they start the English section the Greek medical broad have some objection i dint know the details of that its an old story. form that time some Greeks scared that much that do 2 years in English section and then transfer to Romanian
but in the end they have same degree like Romania's and English section.

my suggestion's to every body
dont vary for the validity of the courses they all form all the university r valid. for the faculty's i dint know they r real mess on the basis of experience.
i am holding UK gmc registration and any body who pass from Romania can have it with or without plab.depending on Ur citizenship.
for the other part of Europe like Germany and Spain and other countries all the Romanian graduates will be treated like home graduates only the have to have the B2 in the countries language where Ru going German for Germany.Switzerland,Atria. and some part of Belgian.Spanish for Spain. etc
do not worry all Ur degrees r valid be happy,
if u dint like the unis change them as soon as possible .

form the above article if some body is unhappy aim sorry but that's the realty . form my prospective its the truth and its not that harsh

i would really like to thank waltfw for opening this topic

now as we know he also told me about the agencies
here is my advice to every body
if u like to come on Ur own be happy and come welcome u will have some hassles but u will find Ur way or may be not but u will have experience,
if u decide to come thought any agent or consultant.remember this
1.that agent is there to make money like a real estate agent so he will make money on u. but he never should lie to u for any anything.
2.pay to the consultant / agent who have registered company in Romania so u be sure he is paying right tax and Ur safe side if the things go wrong
3. what ever the agent/consultants say he cannot grantee u seat as at least in Romania its uni decision.
4. if u decide to pay. pay him via vire transfer in the company's name .so u be sure like any other business
5. negotiate for airport pickup and apartment arrangements.
6 . keep the document copy's with u in case u need them be straight forward and all ways know Ur way try not lie and cheat so that in end u don't have any wrong points.

that it for now
cheers

and i forget to tell u the timsoara englsih section is very good

Originally Posted by jack001

2.if u rank all of them or the mains one from up to down on the basis of what Romanians and foreign students say. the list will be as follows

1. Carlo divalia Bucharest
2 cluj
3 timisoara= yash
4 trug mures
all the above ones are medical university
then is the faculties
oradea= sibiu=criova=constacza
more or less there standards are
bye

what should we think of your "based on experience" you don't even know how to spell the school names ... I don t trust a lot illiterate people making this kind of propaganda
btw , just for your own knowledge , UMF timisoara english section has lost its accreditation given by ARACIS last year (official accreditation service in romania , and any rank is STUPID as everybody in ro says his school is the best...especialy the big ones with a lot of voices ), and is the only one of all med sections in this situation. you cannot at this time work in romania with the english grade from this univ , and you rank it in top 3 lol ...
please go back to school and don't waste your time for worthless informations

chapelier
As i would like remind you that Iam a Med graduate from timisoara and i suppose Ur med school student ,so for respect and integrity of med school do not try to disrespect any body by saying illiterate. which actually show Ur level of literacy. if u think I'm providing wrong and compelling information bring it on a debate .be careful before to disrespect some body and show Ur level of education and manners if u think what I'm saying is wrong OK we can talk .if u cant get Ur attitude right don't bother to comment.
I know Ur not happy to be in oradea.since i put oradea down to my list . but the truth is the truth. u should be happy that oradea made the EU students fees very affordable may be that will bring some pride to the faculty.anyway if Ur not agent who want every body to go to oradea through yourself only. u should not be unhappy. and even if ur agent u have rite to market ur product but please tell everybody the truth.
but any way my friend u cant work in Romania as independent doctor until and unless u don't have minimum 3 years of family medicine after u have Ur MD or 3 years any residency if the residency Ur pursuing is more then 3 years .no matter from which uni u r and no matter from which country u r.loll u was thinking Ur ready to go.its the truth.if u don't believe me call ministry of health or ask any of Ur teachers.
but on the same diplomas u can take a medical license in allover EU and Practice funny but its true.

Regarding ranking
I never said that timisoara is the best . i mentioned that the Bucharest is the best followed by cluj.... cluj in which Ur so called faculty wanted them self to be joined..
till very recently all the failures student from cluj.timisoara.Iaşi even Bucharest was going to oradea to save there years .still u want to discuss ranking. the oradea university is good only on the basis of fees that's it that place has to offer.and that is the one of the reason why everybody wants to go there . but believe me sooner or later they will increase the fees as much as they want since if u have read the contract paper u sing its written clearly the fees is subjected to change any time with prior notice.and believe me when they will increase they will not care how much u want to pay.any way all the unis r as good as there student who really want to study.so if u think oradea is good be it I'm happy for u .

ARACIS matter
ARACIS thing let me tell u one thing all the unis in Romania tell u that they have English section . but in realty that's not the case for that part u can check the above post. all Ur degrees r in Romanian as like Romanian students if u don't believe me check from anybody who passed out last year.if any university in Romania is giving English degree its not valid outside EU(in EU it has to be valid since the treaty rights)be very care full.
Up to my knowledge most the unis take their license exam in Romanian as in case of timisoara so u really have to learn Romanian but in case of oradea they do it in English which is god for international student but its legal validity I'm not sure.but let it be who cares.

Mr.chapelier
if u can send me the link which says what Ur saying about the ARACIS i will be able to get the latest update regarding that .
as i was in discussion regarding this matter with some of seniors they told the same paper mention what Ru saying does not say any thing about oradea English section (yes-no) and also there was miss understanding between English section MD and one other diploma which university was providing regarding molecular cell biology some thing which was later suspended due to the research laws in EU but i don't want to go in the depth of that since at this time i haven't have that papers but we will see.
when i was talking about ranking i was to saying only on the basis of where i study.the reasons r as follows
1. the structure and the infrastructure of university and the city
2.the amount of students enrolled(population of county)
3 .the number of course available
4.whether all the specialtyies r available in that university or not
5.number of ERASMUS exchange student and and international collaborations
6.number of EU sponsored specialty centers
7. number of courses university had started in past and ditch the students(very bad )
7.number of international students.
and if u visit the university ask the locals and international student what they think.
answer Ur self all this questions from google and u will be knowing what I'm talking about or visit oradea and then go to timisoara(3HR),cluj(4HR),bucurest(10HR) and u will know the difference.
I'm here to advice and work as consultant my job is advice u to go to best place to study on the basis what u want and what u can afford. not like an agent to pursue u to go the university where the things r easy for the agent.
that's it. be happy

I don't know which of you is right but there is a lot of good information in this thread

as my #1 concern is getting a degree that will allow me to remain and practice *in Romania*, I had already decided to transfer to the Romanian section as soon as I can (not just for the degree, but language practice & fluency, want to be known as someone who will stick around, etc.). There is a lot of good information that reinforces this decision as it seems there is a lot of uncertainty about English language programs as the moment.. which is a shame.

does anybody know the current status of the Oradea-Cluj merger situation?

SEE Iam not saying what I'm saying for reputation and we r not here in spelling bee contest which i win ones and hated it. anyway

what I told before is already been confirmed by chapelier in early post regarding the USA broad WHERE he mentioned that in the oradea and whole of Romania degree is recognized in same way like timisoara around the world.so one debate is finish about timisoara.

now the point is what Ur saying my friend waltfw that u want to transfer in Romanian section. really it will not be easy but good for u. if u really want stay in Romania after MD . NOW to do pg in good field in Romania is hard and here Ur Senior teachers don't want to teach u that much since they consider u as that .u will become there or there children's competitors and believe me its true.that's y most of Romanian resident r going Germany and other countries. which actually is good and worth .
i will strongly suggest to read more and more international books if u can
go to lot of active conference and internships that will make Ur CV.
if u plan to go any where in Europe learn the language from now may be German /one of Scandinavian.and be clear about the residency there for example in Germany after MD u need only B2 AND SWEDEN u need Swedish language and in Ur interview they will decide Ur caliber and ask u to do 6 to 18 month paid internship in Sweden but if u have Romania or any other EU country's residency experience of min 1 year they will give the license.
but this topic is about jobs leave it for now
now don't worry at least English section in university is safe since the Romania gov will make 6 unis and that it says no more faculty because of budget. but this will happen by 4 years from now but don't worry every body who's is enrolled will get the MD .RELAX
ALL THE ENGLISH SECTION OF THE UNIVERSITY'S IN ROMANIA IS VALID AND RECOGNIZED ALL OVER THE WORLD BUT TO UNDERSTAND HOW .
THATs THE COMPLEX THING.