Offshore schools may lose federal loans

[RUJC05]

Can you guys please read section 103, I am getting tired of stating this over and over.

Sec 103.

`(i) in the case of a graduate medical school located outside the United States

`(I) at least 60 percent of those enrolled in, and at least 60 percent of the graduates of, the graduate medical school outside the United States were not persons described in section 484(a)(5) in the year preceding the year for which a student is seeking a loan under part B of title IV; and

So 60 % of the student population cannot be U.S. citizens. Sec 484(a)(5) refers to U.S. Citizen

`(II) at least 60 percent of the individuals who were students or graduates of the graduate medical school outside the United States or Canada (both nationals of the United States and others) taking the examinations administered by the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates received a passing score in the year preceding the year for which a student is seeking a loan under part B of title IV; or';

So it doesn't matter if 60% of your school were able to obtain the ECFMG certification. Your school still won't be eligible. The first requirement : 60% of the students cannot be U.S. citizens.

In summary to federal aids,

Option 1:
(I) 60 % of the students were not U.S. citizens., (II) 60% of the students pass the USMLE and obtain ECFMG certification.

Option 2:
The grandfather clause
As for students in the Big 3, we can only get federal aids through option #2.

It is simple, if this bill passes YOU WON'T GET ANY MORE AIDS.

No Federal Aids = No DOE # = No Stafford = No SalleMae

Only Option: Teri and HealthXpress(I think HX is being sold, don't quote me on this).

[McGillGrad]

Originally Posted by RUJC05

Can you guys please read section 103, I am getting tired of stating this over and over.

Yeah true. You shouldn't be tired though.

[Scott1981]

in case anyone wants to know how the house voted on the bill, here is the roll call. i dont know the part affiliations of these congressmen/women. ill try to research it and see if its random yea and nay votes or a pattern. it was back in july when the house first considered it, and numerous items were amended to it in the past 4 months. each amendment never affected our "1992" clause so i think this is the most accurate roll call.

http://edworkforce.house.gov/markups...09/720rc41.pdf

[JKDMed]

Well, this certainly sucks. So far AUC is my only option and it looks like I probably won't be able to afford it.

[OLDPRO]

Originally Posted by RUJC05

Can you guys please read section 103, I am getting tired of stating this over and over.

Sec 103.

`(i) in the case of a graduate medical school located outside the United States

`(I) at least 60 percent of those enrolled in, and at least 60 percent of the graduates of, the graduate medical school outside the United States were not persons described in section 484(a)(5) in the year preceding the year for which a student is seeking a loan under part B of title IV; and

So 60 % of the student population cannot be U.S. citizens. Sec 484(a)(5) refers to U.S. Citizen

`(II) at least 60 percent of the individuals who were students or graduates of the graduate medical school outside the United States or Canada (both nationals of the United States and others) taking the examinations administered by the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates received a passing score in the year preceding the year for which a student is seeking a loan under part B of title IV; or';

So it doesn't matter if 60% of your school were able to obtain the ECFMG certification. Your school still won't be eligible. The first requirement : 60% of the students cannot be U.S. citizens.

In summary to federal aids,

Option 1:
(I) 60 % of the students were not U.S. citizens., (II) 60% of the students pass the USMLE and obtain ECFMG certification.

Option 2:
The grandfather clause
As for students in the Big 3, we can only get federal aids through option #2.

It is simple, if this bill passes YOU WON'T GET ANY MORE AIDS.

No Federal Aids = No DOE # = No Stafford = No SalleMae

Only Option: Teri and HealthXpress(I think HX is being sold, don't quote me on this).

Yes true but that is the way it is for the rest, It's wrong I think since Student loans are granted for Beauty school and Nail institutes in the USA but offshore medical schools?

You can still get Salle Mae signature loans though, I know a school who is getting them. One of the problem is also defferment of Undergrad loans. No DOE=No deferrment. You all need to keep writing congress, don't do it by email cause they just delete them do it in writing!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't stop cause it's numbers that will count.

Good luck.

[Scott1981]

well i just calculated it......
house bill retaining 1992 grandfather clause
i think this was from their subcommitte vote (low numbers) on the bill to send it out

FOR IT - 25 republicans
2 democrats

Against it- 19 democrats
1 republican


one more reason why i am a republican. i didnt even need to calculate this....... i should have known .

what im wondering about is the senate? i cant seem to get a roll call on s1614 at any stage of its life. any luck?

[swimguy23]

Originally Posted by whuds

You all need to keep writing congress, don't do it by email cause they just delete them do it in writing!!!!!!!!!!!!!

maybe you didnt hear about the anthrax attacks.....well i'll tell you since the elderly woman who died from it live only a few towns away from me.....a letter to congress can take up to 90 days to clear security and get to the congressmen.....now how productive would that be 2 months after something has been passed?

[options]

use a fax machine...

[swimguy23]

Originally Posted by options

use a fax machine...

i imagine email and fax could be ignored just as easily?

[OLDPRO]

Originally Posted by swimguy23

maybe you didnt hear about the anthrax attacks.....well i'll tell you since the elderly woman who died from it live only a few towns away from me.....a letter to congress can take up to 90 days to clear security and get to the congressmen.....now how productive would that be 2 months after something has been passed?

Well thats the rub.......one student at my old school clerked for a congressman and said emails Uh got the DELETE button and were never read, EVER heard of computer Viruses?
Looks as if you can't win, Fax it.