Offshore schools may lose federal loans

[dc79md]

Originally Posted by mallku

guiness has taken a toll on my glomeruli. how much do you want if I take both?

now I need to find out who my congressman is.

how much $ you got? There was a very good link here so that you can email your politician. I used it. Dan

[DUtrainertom]

Calm down everyone! I read through the Senate version of the bill. Title I Section 103 has been amended by the Senate (preliminarily at least) removing the grandfather clause. What this means is that as long as your school has 60% of its students pass ECFMG tests (AKA Step 1) your school will be eligible for federal loans. This does not close the door to anyone, but actually opens it. The House bill still contains the provision.

Here is the wording of the Senate verision:

SEC. 103. DEFINITION OF INSTITUTION OF HIGHER EDUCATION FOR PURPOSES OF TITLE IV PROGRAMS.

• Section 102 (20 U.S.C. 1002) is amended--

• • (1) in subsection (a)--

• • • (A) by striking paragraph (2)(A)(i) and inserting the following:

• • • • `(i) in the case of a graduate medical school located outside the United States--

• • • • • `(I) at least 60 percent of those enrolled in, and at least 60 percent of the graduates of, the graduate medical school outside the United States were not persons described in section 484(a)(5) in the year preceding the year for which a student is seeking a loan under part B of title IV; and

• • • • • `(II) at least 60 percent of the individuals who were students or graduates of the graduate medical school outside the United States or Canada (both nationals of the United States and others) taking the examinations administered by the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates received a passing score in the year preceding the year for which a student is seeking a loan under part B of title IV; or';

[cpatel]

correct me if am wrong but is there still such a thing as the ecfmg requirement? or is it just step 1, step 2, and step 2 clinical skills, and then the toefl?

[RUJC05]

What exactly is "at least 60 percent of those enrolled in, and at least 60 percent of the graduates of, the graduate medical school outside the United States were not persons described in section 484(a)(5) in the year preceding the year for which a student is seeking a loan under part B of title IV;?

[Cardinal]

In theory this should increase standards for admisson, so as to protect the eligibility under title IV. Good work

Originally Posted by DUtrainertom

Calm down everyone! I read through the Senate version of the bill. Title I Section 103 has been amended by the Senate (preliminarily at least) removing the grandfather clause. What this means is that as long as your school has 60% of its students pass ECFMG tests (AKA Step 1) your school will be eligible for federal loans. This does not close the door to anyone, but actually opens it. The House bill still contains the provision.

Here is the wording of the Senate verision:

SEC. 103. DEFINITION OF INSTITUTION OF HIGHER EDUCATION FOR PURPOSES OF TITLE IV PROGRAMS.

• Section 102 (20 U.S.C. 1002) is amended--

• • (1) in subsection (a)--

• • • (A) by striking paragraph (2)(A)(i) and inserting the following:

• • • • `(i) in the case of a graduate medical school located outside the United States--

• • • • • `(I) at least 60 percent of those enrolled in, and at least 60 percent of the graduates of, the graduate medical school outside the United States were not persons described in section 484(a)(5) in the year preceding the year for which a student is seeking a loan under part B of title IV; and

• • • • • `(II) at least 60 percent of the individuals who were students or graduates of the graduate medical school outside the United States or Canada (both nationals of the United States and others) taking the examinations administered by the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates received a passing score in the year preceding the year for which a student is seeking a loan under part B of title IV; or';

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by cpatel

correct me if am wrong but is there still such a thing as the ecfmg requirement? or is it just step 1, step 2, and step 2 clinical skills, and then the toefl?

Yes there is still the ecfmg requirment.

[RUJC05]

what is in section 484(a)(5)? I can't find it

[teratos]

That keeps it interesting. G

[RUJC05]

What happened to the rule that state an eligible school must have atleast (60% I think) of its student population coming from their own country? It was something like that.

Since Ross, SGU, and AUC did not fit that rule, technically the big 3 would not be eligible. However, the grandfather clause gave it an exception because the Big 3 were approved by the states prior to 1992.

[swimguy23]

I've made a very personal contact who may be of huge help in the matter. I was asked not to publish his name until he can look into the information but lets say he is extremely influential at getting information out to the public I'll keep everyone posted