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Old 07-18-2005, 11:45 AM
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trouble choosing schools

alright i am sorry for multiple posts. Did not know the rules.

People of valuemd, I have a low GPA (2.5) and low mcat (22). I have been trying for 3 yrs to gain acceptance into a US medical school but to my surprise I was denied. I guess due to the awesome stats! I plan to take the MCAT this August and I will most probably get around a 26 (taking Kaplan and this has been my average score on old MCATS). I am going to apply to the big three and SABA and I know that my chances are not good. Anyways I wanted to apply to some other schools as well. I'm thinking about S.t. Mathews and AUG. Also MUA and Xavier. From doing research on the forum, I ve come to the conclusion that St. Mathews would be the best school other than the top 4. I was hoping that you all can give me some input! Also, which is the better route, going to the more recognized UAG in Mexico (5th pathway) or choosing one of the lesser recognized caribbean med schools such as Xavier or MUA?
Thank you very much for the advice! Good Luck with school.
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:13 PM
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alright i am sorry for multiple posts. Did not know the rules.

People of valuemd, I have a low GPA (2.5) and low mcat (22). I have been trying for 3 yrs to gain acceptance into a US medical school but to my surprise I was denied. I guess due to the awesome stats! I plan to take the MCAT this August and I will most probably get around a 26 (taking Kaplan and this has been my average score on old MCATS). I am going to apply to the big three and SABA and I know that my chances are not good. Anyways I wanted to apply to some other schools as well. I'm thinking about S.t. Mathews and AUG. Also MUA and Xavier. From doing research on the forum, I ve come to the conclusion that St. Mathews would be the best school other than the top 4. I was hoping that you all can give me some input! Also, which is the better route, going to the more recognized UAG in Mexico (5th pathway) or choosing one of the lesser recognized caribbean med schools such as Xavier or MUA?
Thank you very much for the advice! Good Luck with school.

Although I already said it... I'll say it again. Go back to school and show that you can do the material and get good grades. How else are you gonna prove yourself to these admissions committees.
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I have read an article posted in my school's internship and career center, saying that the average GPA for getting admission to US medical school has raised to around 3.6 ~3.7. Getting admission to US medical schools is getting harder and harder, but of course, that is still the number 1 choose. If you don't want to go back to school to improve your GPA ( even if you have improved, it still doesn't guarrantee you will grant admission), yeah, you can try Carribean med. schools, but at the same time you could also consider medical schools at Poland. Even though, the curriculums are completely organized toward USMLE, the schools are working on it. There are a lot of people go there studying medicine and practice in US.
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alright i am sorry for multiple posts. Did not know the rules.

People of valuemd, I have a low GPA (2.5) and low mcat (22). I have been trying for 3 yrs to gain acceptance into a US medical school but to my surprise I was denied. I guess due to the awesome stats! I plan to take the MCAT this August and I will most probably get around a 26 (taking Kaplan and this has been my average score on old MCATS). I am going to apply to the big three and SABA and I know that my chances are not good. Anyways I wanted to apply to some other schools as well. I'm thinking about S.t. Mathews and AUG. Also MUA and Xavier. From doing research on the forum, I ve come to the conclusion that St. Mathews would be the best school other than the top 4. I was hoping that you all can give me some input! Also, which is the better route, going to the more recognized UAG in Mexico (5th pathway) or choosing one of the lesser recognized caribbean med schools such as Xavier or MUA?
Thank you very much for the advice! Good Luck with school.
St Mathews would be the best choice out of what you posted. Beware of charter issues. one of them you listed currently has a charter issue. Without FAIMER ECMFG listing you might as well throw your money down the toilet.
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know your facts

It is probably EASIER to get into a US school now vs, the mid 1990s. The increasing GPAs are attributed to grade inflation. The applicant #s are way down from the peak years.

http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2004/2004mcatgpa.htm


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I have read an article posted in my school's internship and career center, saying that the average GPA for getting admission to US medical school has raised to around 3.6 ~3.7. Getting admission to US medical schools is getting harder and harder, but of course, that is still the number 1 choose. If you don't want to go back to school to improve your GPA ( even if you have improved, it still doesn't guarrantee you will grant admission), yeah, you can try Carribean med. schools, but at the same time you could also consider medical schools at Poland. Even though, the curriculums are completely organized toward USMLE, the schools are working on it. There are a lot of people go there studying medicine and practice in US.
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It is probably EASIER to get into a US school now vs, the mid 1990s. The increasing GPAs are attributed to grade inflation. The applicant #s are way down from the peak years.

http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2004/2004mcatgpa.htm
Grade inflation? whats that based on? Are you saying a 2.5 is really a 3.8?
Come on sounds like rhetoric to me.
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Old 07-20-2005, 07:08 PM
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It's true that some schools have resorted to grade inflation, but there are also a lot of schools that haven't. When I was at University of Virginia, the avg GPA for the chemistry department was 2.6. Rather than do grade inflation, they just made the lowest passing GPA lower, haha.
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It is based on information from my colleagues involved with medical student admissions. My post is clear, perhaps you were not able to interpret the statistics on the link or did not look at the link. Otherwise, I am not sure of the basis or appropriateness of your third question.


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Grade inflation? whats that based on? Are you saying a 2.5 is really a 3.8?
Come on sounds like rhetoric to me.
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It is based on information from my colleagues involved with medical student admissions. My post is clear, perhaps you were not able to interpret the statistics on the link or did not look at the link. Otherwise, I am not sure of the basis or appropriateness of your third question.
Like I said rhetoric, I don't believe it. To pass a class is to pass a class. The MCATS have not been dumbed down, The USLME has not been dumbed down so what does this prove? Statistics can make youre point thats what. ed gee I understood I just question such broad statements generalized thats all.
Boy, why tell some one with a 2.5 they should be able to get in? It's ridiculous. You know I am allowed to have an opposite opinion to you.
I don't have to believe what you post or what some statistic says.

Anyways I did not see that big of a deal 2004 gpa was 3.62 up from 3.47 and stated nothing about "grade infaltion" You did not prove anything!
A rise from 0.47 to 0.62 is not that big of a deal! Are you saying the students didn't earn their grades?

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alright i am sorry for multiple posts. Did not know the rules.

People of valuemd, I have a low GPA (2.5) and low mcat (22). I have been trying for 3 yrs to gain acceptance into a US medical school but to my surprise I was denied. I guess due to the awesome stats! I plan to take the MCAT this August and I will most probably get around a 26 (taking Kaplan and this has been my average score on old MCATS). I am going to apply to the big three and SABA and I know that my chances are not good. Anyways I wanted to apply to some other schools as well. I'm thinking about S.t. Mathews and AUG. Also MUA and Xavier. From doing research on the forum, I ve come to the conclusion that St. Mathews would be the best school other than the top 4. I was hoping that you all can give me some input! Also, which is the better route, going to the more recognized UAG in Mexico (5th pathway) or choosing one of the lesser recognized caribbean med schools such as Xavier or MUA?
Thank you very much for the advice! Good Luck with school.
Salutations "Myxomatosis":

If you have already spent three years trying to get into a U.S. Medical School, then you should start considering the Caribbean route (or other foreign medical schools in other countries). I am NOT saying that you should simply give up and attend a foreign medical school, but you have to be realistic about your situation. With a 2.5 GPA and a 22 MCATs, it is very tough to be admitted to a U.S. School. At what point are you going to try and accomplish your dreams? Heck, you may apply to a U.S. school 8 more times and still be rejected. So I'm glad you're thinking of other alternatives.

Let's see, any one of the top 4 Caribbean schools will be great for your education. As for getting admitted into one of them, keep in mind they do look at the applicant as a whole package, and not just as numbers. I am not on their admission committee so I cannot say if you will get in or not. However, that being said, at least you still have a chance of being admitted. St. Mathews is also a pretty good option. If it were me and I didn't get into one of the top 4 schools, I would have chosen St. Matthews followed by MUA Nevis. I heard the island where St. Matthews is located is a great place to live.

I don't know much about UAG and its 5th Pathway system, but if it is as reputable as you make it sound, then that shouldn't be a problem. Make sure that once you complete your education over there you are able to practice in the state you want. The same applies to any Caribbean schools you may have in mind. For example, as of this moment, there are only 4 Caribbean schools that will allow you to practice medicine in California.

Do your research about all schools you have in mind. Good luck on your journey. Ciao.
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