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    Caribbean DO School?

    While I am certain this has been thought of before I can't help but to think that an enterprising group of folks might try the following:

    Open up a Caribbean-based DO school. Seek approval from the AOA. The AOA has given approval to Rocky Mountain Vista DO school, which is for-profit. Perhaps they would be ok with a Caribbean school.

    Does anyone know if this has ever been tried or thought of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UHSADOC View Post
    Do you have a support for that statement ??

    To enter ACGME the MD Graduate must be ECFMG / NBME certified !
    Even when you apply via ERAS, ACGME will require USMLE scores NOT COMLEX scores. This is why so many DOs are taking the USMLEs and not just the COMLEX.

    no problemo.. here's just one program that will take either or. it's an ACGME Anesthesia program here's a link to their faq. and it clearly states USMLE or COMLEX. they're not the only ones. the more desperate the program the more they'll take whatever you have, this is even more commonly seen in IM and FM programs. USMLE scores will help a DO to get into an ACMGE program and some competitive university programs require them but most community programs don't. it's at the very end of the page stating what documents are needed to be submitted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bstone View Post
    Open up a Caribbean-based DO school.
    Talk about the worst of both worlds...
    The glass is neither half-full nor half-empty: it's twice as big as it needs to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronos View Post
    Talk about the worst of both worlds...
    Are you completely sure of that? What if they somehow succeed in getting AOA approval? Thus they'll be good for all 50 states and be able to test for COMLEX, which is easier than USMLE.

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    UHSADOC here's another one SUNY-UPSTATE

    Didactic Teaching: Residency Program:Anesthesiology Department:SUNY Upstate Medical University



    We would welcome your application for a CA-1 (PGY-2) position beginning in July 2010 at our institution. We will be considering applications only through ERAS and we will be continuously reviewing applications through December 31. A successful candidate has USMLE scores in the 80s (pass on first attempt) with excellent reference letters. The following is a list of materials necessary for a complete application through ERAS:

    • Medical School Transcript
    • USMLE Transcript or COMLEX (scores in the 80's)
    • ECFMG Status Report
    • Dean's Letter
    • Personal Statement
    • Reference Letters (3)
    • CV
    • Universal Application
    • Photo (optional)

    The ERAS applications are reviewed upon receipt. If a candidate meets the above requirements, they are contacted via email about an interview.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bstone View Post
    Are you completely sure of that? What if they somehow succeed in getting AOA approval? Thus they'll be good for all 50 states and be able to test for COMLEX, which is easier than USMLE.

    they will never get AOA approval AOA is a north american organization and will only accredit north american schools. just like the LCME is only for med schools in the US and canada and will never have any school that's not in those two contries be part of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RussianJoo View Post
    they will never get AOA approval AOA is a north american organization and will only accredit north american schools. just like the LCME is only for med schools in the US and canada and will never have any school that's not in those two contries be part of it.
    Do you work for the AOA? Did you call them and ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bstone View Post
    Do you work for the AOA? Did you call them and ask?

    Yes i am the president of the AOA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RussianJoo View Post
    Yes i am the president of the AOA.
    I see. Impersonation is not a good thing. You realize that, right?

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    here you go I wrote these accreditation guidlines, and I know I didn't include anything about non US schools but you can read it for yourself to be 100% sure.

    http://www.osteopathic.org/pdf/SB03-...uly%202008.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by RussianJoo View Post
    here you go I wrote these accreditation guidlines, and I know I didn't include anything about non US schools but you can read it for yourself to be 100% sure.

    http://www.osteopathic.org/pdf/SB03-...uly%202008.pdf
    I highly suggest you read through this document, which you claim to have authored.

    It says:

    Standard Eight: Prerequisites for Accreditation (for Pre-Accreditation evaluations only)

    8.1 Each applicant must obtain any charter, licenses or approvals required for it to function as a
    COM in the jurisdiction in which it intends to operate.

    8.2 Each applicant must have a governing body, or be part of a higher education institution with
    a governing body, which defines the mission of the institution and the intended COM.

    8.3 Each governing body will adopt bylaws, or equivalent documents, which will:

    8.3.1 Ensure that the governing body will be composed of persons with demonstrated
    expertise required to implement the mission of the college.

    8.3.2 Define responsibilities of the governing body, the administrative and academic
    officers and the faculty and set forth the organizational structure of the COM; and

    8.3.3 Satisfy such provisions as may be required by applicable law and regulations.
    Notice it says nothing about being solely in North America. It in fact is very broad when it says "Each applicant must obtain any charter, licenses or approvals required for it to function as a
    COM in the jurisdiction in which it intends to operate."

    Thus, according to this, a school can open in Nevis, obtain a charter and license to operate a medical school and model it as an osteopathic school. Then they can apply to the AOA and attempt to pass the accreditation challenge.

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