new med school

[teratos]

I don't think he'll get the federal loans, either. Didn't they stop giving Stafford approval to off-shore schools? The proximity to the US is the big selling point. That should ensure that some people will sign up. G

[azskeptic]

The deal is this....Mexico has a legitimate medical school system. I wouldn't place money that they will allow this...what I think we have is an emergency room physician who graduated from a Mexican school who hasn't studied this enough. He doesn't realize probably that Texas has laws against schools like him...he doesn't realize that Mexico under President Fox is going legit and will not allow ripoffs like the old days...but he'll realize it pretty soon....because he is now out trying to sell his system and people are becoming aware of him. He'll get cease and desist orders...be told his students can't do studies in Texas unless he becomes licensed there...be told in Mexico that he must apply for a charter whicih they won't give him....interesting stuff...and students will waste their money in a futile attempt to get into a school that is convenient. az skeptic

[october]

Originally Posted by teratos

Another school with a charter in one place and campus in another. I guess it is attractive since if it is close enough to the border, you can live in the US. Can anyone get licensed? This new trend may bring attention to the charter/licensure issue. G

Then they best deny licensure to graduates of Quatar Cornell since as their website states, graduates will receive an MD from Cornell University, NY (apparently)

[teratos]

Yes, but that is Cornell. There are different degrees of equality.

I think the school will be chartered in Quatar. Interestingly, there is no mention of the school in Imed. G

[azskeptic]

Originally Posted by october

Then they best deny licensure to graduates of Quatar Cornell since as their website states, graduates will receive an MD from Cornell University, NY (apparently)

I have checked that out. They will receive an MD from Quater,not from the US. All of the major med schools are jumping on the bandwagon to sell their 'teaching' but they are not above the law. I am very interested to see what the individual states have to say about the country of charter issue so wrote all of them to find out. Will share on this list what I find.

az skeptic

[plasma]

As for texas laws and clinicals. Well lets just say I know them well I have a law degree from UH and a undergrad in criminal justice also from UH. I have always wanted to go to med school I had a 4.0 and was waitlisted. I also have family who are Fed Jud. in tx and I chose to go to an off shore school after law school. One reason was my age it is hard to get in to any grad program in Tx for an older person. You can bet your bottom dollar I had checked all laws and any complication that can pose a problem. It's not illegal to do clinicals in Tx for any school. UTMB has online courses for basic science classes. Tx does not and can not follow California Law they use it as a guide line only. Tx will license ind. on an ind. bases. You can go to the state board web site and see what schools that have license sudents in Tx there are many from off shore schools. California states on their own web site under the proposed rules that they have established their own task force and charge for an application fee for any school that whises to be on their list for approved schools. It also states that the board can be taken to court by any school or student who whises to do so. California has created their own task force and it is not a binding force only one who goes to schools and decides if that school fits their criteria. Therefore Tx rides in on the skirt tails and says if Cali says it ok we will accecpt their findings. Again the Cali task force is not a leagal binding agent they can be taken to court and cases can be won by ind. If you want to do clinicals in Tx you will have to follow a few rules
1) you must registar as a visiting student at any Tx med school.
this meas you have to pick a school and registar as a vs and the school will place you in a state/gov hospital.
This does not mean that anyone who does clincials in TX and follows the rules set forth will be promised a license in Tx they can and will refuse anyone for licensure in Tx. If you do not follow the vs rule you may or may not get a licensed either way who knows. I have know life time residents of Tx who went to med schoo in Tx and still did not get a license in Tx one was because of a bad check charge a class C that caused during a divorce. I have also know a doc that had 4 drug convictions a suspension and finally lost his license when he was caught dealing drugs out of his office and sent to prison. So you cant ever tell with the good ole boy system Tx is a strange state with a strange sense of humor. anyway for thoes who would like to go to Tx read the update laws and proposals on the state board web site keep up with the ever changing laws. Call or email to Mrs. Myers at the board she will happily answer and questions you may have. If you need any help feel free to pm me and I will do by best to get the info

[cher25]

Don't be a $200,000 guinea pig for a new and unknown school. With these new schools, my advice is to wait until they get their first grads and see if they get residency and licensure..until then, it's too big of a risk.

[wolfvgang22]

Originally Posted by plasma

One reason was my age it is hard to get in to any grad program in Tx for an older person.

This is true for medicine. If your over 25 you are basically out of luck with Texas medical schools, in my experience as a Texan pre-med.

Originally Posted by plasma

If you want to do clinicals in Tx you will have to follow a few rules
1) you must registar as a visiting student at any Tx med school.
this meas you have to pick a school and registar as a vs and the school will place you in a state/gov hospital.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I don't think Texas medical schools will let you register as a visiting student unless you would have met their regular admissions criteria to begin with.

Originally Posted by plasma

It also states that the board can be taken to court by any school or student who whises to do so.

Most students don't have the kind of money it takes to take on TSBME's legions of lawyers. Not a realistic option for most of us. (Unless you'll represent me pro bono.) Medical schools don't want to pursue this because it's expensive and it would cut into profit margins right now, so don't hold your breath.

Originally Posted by plasma

So you cant ever tell with the good ole boy system Tx is a strange state with a strange sense of humor.

I can do without the kind of humor that becomes a roadblock to my aspirations.

Originally Posted by plasma

Again the Cali task force is not a leagal binding agent they can be taken to court and cases can be won by ind.

It's spelled "legal". (Can't help it, I'm a teacher! 8) )

[plasma]

On the meeting the vs req. it states that the school you attend must have the same structure as a US med school. It looks like most of the off shore schools have the same classes and books as the US med schools. Cant speak for them all. I do know that UTMB has a strange set up they have a 14-26 wk sem. but is broken up in to 8wk for anatomy 8 wk for hiso/cell and 9 wk for neuro. ect. all classes can be taken on the e class setup but you must attend the dissection and clinicals if you miss 3 days up have to start over.
As for pro bono work sure always open to helping who is willing to fight a good cause.
sorry I have a very bad habit of fingers faster than brain. The fingers tend to push keys faster than brain can process. so I tend to have a new spelling for everything. What I hate the most is this darn lap top has a mouse pad in the center and I keep touching something and it will move the cursor somewhere else and I get words inserted in diff. places.
As for the sense of humor I was born and raised in TX (east Tx) and life there is always exciting never know whats going to happen. I love Tx and hope to go back to my hometown and work. I dont think there will be any problem with license. I just saw on the Houston 11 news where there were over 30 docs either put on probation ect. you can log on to the state board site of 11 news and read all the spec. I have seen a few sup. for failure to complete 1 hr of online ethics. dont know if they are cleaning up alot of the bad ones or just getting that picky.

[wolfvgang22]

Well, I'm glad to meet another Texan! I wish you the best of luck.

You still going to St. Chris? Your posts are interesting.