Get a 4yrs Bachelor deg to study MBBS in US??? what is it??

[Ayesha hafeez]

My brother wants to pursue MBBS in U.S. he sent an email to couple of universities in Mennisota. He got a reply stating that in order to pursue medicine in the US, he must have 4yrs of Bachelor degree. Now isnt MBBS supposed to be Bachelor of Medicine Bachelor of Surgey??? Then what other bachelor degree he must complete in India to study medicine in the U.S??? He has completed his 12th C.B.S.E this year with Bio, Chem and Phy as his subjects. Can someone pls help

[diogenes]

Originally Posted by Ayesha hafeez

My brother wants to pursue MBBS in U.S. he sent an email to couple of universities in Mennisota. He got a reply stating that in order to pursue medicine in the US, he must have 4yrs of Bachelor degree. Now isnt MBBS supposed to be Bachelor of Medicine Bachelor of Surgey??? Then what other bachelor degree he must complete in India to study medicine in the U.S??? He has completed his 12th C.B.S.E this year with Bio, Chem and Phy as his subjects. Can someone pls help

In the American system of medical education the professional qualification is an M.D. (doctor of medicine) which usually takes only 4 years. However, the student is required to have a Bachelor's degree already. This can be in any subject - provided that some short basic science courses have been taken at an approved college.
The Indian (and British etc. etc.) MBBS takes 5 or 6 years. If your brother has an MBBS from his own country he can sit for the USMLE (the American licensing exam that anyone wanting to practise there must take) and he doesn't need another bachelor's degree.
Hope that helps.

[lswiltshire]

Your brother would be better off going to a British University and getting his MBBS. Then he can practice anywhere in the British Commonwealth.

If he thinks he must also practice in the world (thats what Americans call the USA) he can take the various steps of the USMLE exam to be eligible to get a residency. After that he has to seek licensure in the state in which he wants to practice.


FYI an MBBS is equivalent to the US MD but you sometimes have to get some company to say that your MBBS= MD. There are folk that do this professionally. Its lot of poppycock... but thats how it is in the "world".

[rokshana]

Originally Posted by lswiltshire

Your brother would be better off going to a British University and getting his MBBS. Then he can practice anywhere in the British Commonwealth.

If he thinks he must also practice in the world (thats what Americans call the USA) he can take the various steps of the USMLE exam to be eligible to get a residency. After that he has to seek licensure in the state in which he wants to practice.

FYI an MBBS is equivalent to the US MD but you sometimes have to get some company to say that your MBBS= MD. There are folk that do this professionally. Its lot of poppycock... but thats how it is in the "world".

your snotty and contempteous attitude toward the US is just as elitist and offensive as you think we are...

realize you are on a message board that is geared to North American citizens who are looking to practice in the US...I'm sure there are other boards out there that are focused on practicing medicine in say Europe or the Mid East or wherever...but for you to continously bash people on a forum for people who are in or looking to go to off shore med schools to get back to the US is annoying at best and bit racist at worst....

why are you continously surprised that US citizens and green card holders want to practice in their own country? And why are you unrealistic enough to constantly think that citizens of other countries aren't looking for the same information? The 10,000 non-US FMGs that apply for residency EVERY YEAR in the US should tell you otherwise...

[lswiltshire]

Quid dixiscripsique dixiscripsique.

I liked what I said , and I said what I liked and I did not go against the TOS, and I gave the chap acurate and practical advice. You can rant on. I just told the lad the facts of life in the "world."

I taught a lad who 4 years ago was almost ready to graduate from the school in his country- that allowed him to practice medicine in Dutch territories. He opted to transfer to one of the bogus offshore american offshore schools. Guess what he now has an MD that he cant use in his country or in any Dutch country unless he specilizes and he has not matched yet.

Wouldnt it have been better for him to have graduated in his country, gained some experience working and today four years later take the Step exams so that he can practice in the "world?"

By the way, FYI I am not surprised by anything your compatriots do. I am amazed at the polygamy situation in Texas, and the shootings in high schools and colleges. What else will we hear on the news tonight? Now Im just stating facts- thats not bashing. Nothing surprises me in the "world" my friend. So rant on. Cause Im here playing my music and singing along and enjoying myself. I enjoyed your rant. Why dont you folk like the truth?

[argazul]

You call your advice accurate and then in the same sentence call the US a "world". I have lived 18 yrs outside of the US. Do you think that school shootings is different from bomb blasts in religious places? Do you think polygamy is different from a gang rape of a women? Good and Evil does not separate itself through political borders. The only reason you hear more about the US is because we have the freedom to tell the world about our mistakes and still feel safe. The victims and come out and tell their stories without fear or retribution. You can't say that of any other country in the world. It happens everywhere you just don't hear about it.

So go on living happily in your perfect country (if there is such a thing).

[lswiltshire]

Argazul

Of course my advice about the chap’s medical options is accurate. He would be best off to get his MBBS. Then he can go and teach students in the offshore industry for pea nuts and earn some money to take the USMLE. He certainly wont be owing away lots of money at that stage. Then he can try to match. Oh he has to pay about $200 US to that firm to give him a paper that says MBBS =MD first.

I refer to the US as the “world” not a world, because that is how I hear the Americans act and refer to their country. You actually call it the
“world.” You have for example the “world” series and on and on. Its so damn funny. I love to play with words, and I chose my words carefully. rockshanna wanted to rant so she ranted.

And FYI I live in the “world” and have so done for five years now. I am married to a very sweet American lady. She is out of this “world.”

Don’t be sarcastic now. How can you write “So go on living happily in your perfect country (if there is such a thing)” when you believe that the USA is perfect.

Now what is playing out here is how offended you guys get when the shoe is on the other foot. How do you suppose that folk from the islands feel when you folk speak ill of the islands that have been a host to you in your medical studies. Is it right for you to condemn their “world”?

Today one silly lad told me that he couldn’t go to study in Nevis at MUA because they have no civilization because he saw chickens and goats in the background of a photograph. Has he gone to certain Southern Texas towns near the Mexican border?

[bookite]

Originally Posted by Ayesha hafeez

My brother wants to pursue MBBS in U.S. he sent an email to couple of universities in Mennisota. He got a reply stating that in order to pursue medicine in the US, he must have 4yrs of Bachelor degree. Now isnt MBBS supposed to be Bachelor of Medicine Bachelor of Surgey??? Then what other bachelor degree he must complete in India to study medicine in the U.S??? He has completed his 12th C.B.S.E this year with Bio, Chem and Phy as his subjects. Can someone pls help

Coming from India it would be hard to get into a UK school or HO year due to new immigration laws aimed at giving UK citizens and EU member nations first crack at jobs and training. If your brother wants to pursue medicine in the US he might be better off doing his bachelors (4 yr undergraduate work) in the US and applying for US medical school after.

US schools don't give out MBBS degrees all medical studies are at the graduate level and require undergraduate degrees.

good luck

[lswiltshire]

It might be most convenient for him to do his MBBS in India- especially in one of the well established schools set up by the British. He already has the A level qualifications.

Once he is a Dr he can work and earn money. One way is to go to the islands and teach Basic Sciences while he prepares for the Step exams. I have met many who have done it just like that.

It is better in my opinion to train where you are most comfortable- usually in your homeland.

My doctor is Indian. He grew up in NY, but went home to India to study Medicine before returning the US, where he did his residency. .