Anybody know about these Mexican Med schools?

[coolaid]

1]INST TEC Y DE ESTSUPER DE MONTERRE
2]UNIVERSIDAD DE GUANAJUATO
3]UNIVERSIDAD DE MONTERREY
4]UNIVERSIDAD TECNOLOGICA DE MEXICO

[lswiltshire]

We know that everyone of them are better than JBGDL!

What ever you do-- DONT GO TO JBGDL!

ITS NOT IMED LISTED

ITS NOT REGOGNIZED BY THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT

IT DOES NOT OFFER EITHER A MEXICAN OR AN AMERICAN CURRICULUM

IT IS VERY POORLY RUN

IT HAS A VERY POOR TRACT RECORD

IT HAS REGENERATED ITSELF TIME AND TIME AGAIN AT DIFFERENT SITES- EACH TIME IT HAS FAILED

CAVEAT EMPTOR


WHAT EVER YOU DO DON’T GO TO JBGDL JBGDL is not listed in IMED by Mexican authorities either.

And it cannot possibly be listed by them since the curriculum does not meet two of their requirements.

It does not include a pre-graduation rotating internship of one year and the year of social service to the health ministry.

And, if JBGDL met these requirements it would have to add two years to their curriculum, which would make it a five year instead of a three year medical school.

[Slaol_121]

A lot of Mexican medical schools like US citizens to attend (as the books are written in English - but the courses are taught in spanish).

It's difficult to contrast and compare so many schools, but you may want to check out the "questions students should ask" section in the first post on this board:


http://www.valuemd.com/main-foreign-...ead-first.html

Some Questions Students Should Ask

1. How long has the International Medical School (IMS) been in existence?

2. How can I contact the IMS – telephone, fax, e-mail, WWW?

3. Who is the Dean of Admissions?

4. What are the entrance/admissions requirements?

5. Is an undergraduate degree required in order to start school (matriculate)?

6. Are there specific residency or foreign language requirements?

7. Is the MCAT required or optional?

8. If interviews are required, where are they held?

9. What are mean Science and Overall GPAs for the previous entering class?

10. How many classes of students enter each year, and when are the application deadlines?

11. What are estimated annual expenses, including tuition and fees, books, supplies, study materials, housing, food, travel and other living costs?

12. How do students fund their education? What loan programs and scholarships are students eligible for?

13. How many students are enrolled in each class? What is the attrition rate for matriculated students, i.e., how many typically dropout before finishing? What are common reasons for dropping out?

14. What is the length and structure of the entire curriculum?

15. What are the academic credentials of the faculty teaching basic science courses? Where were they educated?

16. Where do students do their clinical training?

17. How do students perform on USMLE I and II? In recent years, what are the 1st time and total pass rates for students from this school?

18. How many students graduate each year?

19. Where did students in the most recent graduating class match for residency? In what specialties?

20. How can I contact some former IMS graduates who are practicing in the U.S. in my area?

[coolaid]

Thanks for heads up Slaol. The list that you see on the first post of this thread, are 'good' schools...as they all have Federal loans, and 50 states.

I need some info about how the schools are from students or friends of students who have been there.not from the officials who sound pretty nice on a long distance phone call.

Thanks

[Experto]

Cool Aid:

It looks to me that you need some cool aid, so I actually signed up to valuemd in order to offer you some. Serious.

The Monterrey Tec med school is actually called Ignacio A. Santos. It is one of the best in Mexico. It is private, with impressive facillities, a mostly upper middle class student body and probably the most expensive in Mexico. I am not sure that they accept any one who is not an Mexican citizen

The Universidad de Monterrey med school is also one of the best in Mexico. It is private, with some loose affiliation to Catholic education, and at one time had the highest, by far, passing rate of its graduates in the ECFMG. That may now be an honor that belongs to Ingnacio Santos. It does not own any installations at all, but provides its students with great clinical education through agreements with the Social Security System and the Health Ministry. And it has always welcomed American citizens. And if you are from Puerto Rico they have a special deal for you.

Now I don't remember the other two med schools that you inquired about, but let me go ahead and share something.

Mexico has a bunch of really excellent med schools about which you do not inquire.

A truly outstanding but hardly known in the US is the Army's Escuela Medico Militar. These guys are tough, the toughest med students in Mexico. They go through something that is equivalent to West Point and the Uniformed Services Med School, at the same time! If you are not a Mexican citizen you will probably not get there.

Then there is:

1. The Universidad Anahuac Med School, which functions like UdeM, and belongs to the Legionaries of Christ. It's in Mexico City and worth checking out.

2. The Universidad laSalle Med School, which belongs to the Christian Brothers and functions also like UdeM. Worth checking out.

3. There is also the Universidad Panamericana Med School, which belongs to Opus Dei, a Catholic institute of brothers and priests, which is known for always doing things very well. In Spain they have Universidad de Navarra, one of the best in Europe. Worth checking out if you are after a good education.

And if you do not mind being in one of the most interesting "small" cities in Latin America look up Universidad del Mayab medical school in Merida. Small and very neat with a very, very solid education. It is a sister to Anahuac.

Among the public schools the truly outstanding is the one that is part of the Universidad Autonoma de Nuevo Leon, in Monterrey. At one time it enjoyed immense support from the Kellogg Foundation and that allowed it to become one of the best, not just in Mexico, but in Latin America. Their clinical curriculum has such depth that you actually go through 12 months of Internal Medicine and another 12 months of surgical rotations and you may actually get to deliver more than 100 babies during your 4 moth OB-GYN rotation. It is medium sized and has been slowly turning itself into a research medical school. Check it out!

Other state (public university) med schools worth checking out are:

1. San Luis Potosi <--Very good, maybe a bit stuffy, but the whole town of San Luis Potosi is like that.

2. Universidad de Guadalajara (not to be confused with UAG, this is known in Mexico as UdeG)<--Great.

There may be other schools worth looking into, but I am not familiar with them and every one of the ones I have alerted you about, above, is among the best.

Finally, I did not include the med school at the National University in Mexico City for one simple reason, its size. It is a great place for professors - academicians and researchers - but you go to school with thousands of students and have to go all over Mexico City to get your med training. I would go there as a prof. I would not go there as a med student!

Ah, yeah...if you are a Seventh Day Adventist, Universidad de Montemorelos is for you. Small and quaint, but you get the good education that you need, especially if you are going to be a medical missionary.

Good luck Coolaid!

Yeah...just remembered: you asked abobut Guanajuato. Well it is good, but ain't among the best.

[coolaid]

Ola brother Roberto. Muchas gracias para su tiempo. I know Mexico has many great medical colleges. But the four I listed have US federal aid, there are a couple of others too that have federal aid.Thats the reason for my interest.

Thanks mi hermano, adios!

[lswiltshire]

Experto

Thanks for your most erudite exposition concerning Mexican schools.

Can you say if any of these schools have an English program..........or does all the schools you mention only offer their curricula in Spanish.

[coolaid]

100% Spanish, no English......

[coolaid]

Let me amend that, 100% pure high class Spanish.

[Experto]

Wiltshire:

As far as I know there is only one med school in Mexico that may teach in English. It is the Westhill Institute med school in Mexico City. It is affiliated to the National Autonomous University, so, if I am correct you get their curriculum, which is fairly standard Flexnerian fare, in English. They have a webiste. Google "westhill, medical school"