Windsor or American University of Antigua!!!!!!!!!

[DOCplucinski]

Originally Posted by ICE101

this thread doesn't even make sense. it appears as if you have already made up your mind, and you are comparing apples and oranges here. you are comparing a school that uses top notch facilities, a vast faculty, and ny approval after only 4 years in existence to a school that has no accreditations, no plans for accreditations (spoke to dr. g) in ny or cali anytime in the near future, and has been operating out of a barn for 10 years. the new campus? it's ok.......but the tuition will go up DRASTICALLY in the next few semesters.......... a person who shops hyundai doesn't cross shop with lexus..........so i don't see why you are cross shopping 2 schools that aren't even in the same league..........you get what you pay for my friend..........enough said..........one thing i learned is that you can't be 'cheap' on a med school education........othewise it'll come and bite you on your behind 5 years later.........and during med school when you wish you went to a better school....

i think you pretty much hit it right there. i've never been to Windsor and cannot comment on the education, but as far as the administration goes, it has been open how long and it STILL does not have NY approval? there is no real explanation for this and i know it's not because they aren't ready for it, NY approval is not a tough thing to get.

Windsor, as I read, has a great 5th semester program but AUA also has 3 locations for theirs, Miami, Michigan and Baltimore - the latter at very good hospitals. also another thing to take into account, Windsor is cheap but Windsor does not have loans, correct me if i'm wrong. AUA just secured three loan companies for the upcoming semester to replace SLX.

you need to consider all options when it comes down to it. i can say confidently that AUA is heading in the right direct in a much faster pace than Windsor is.

[Magen-MD]

AUA has pretty interesting faculty. Such high caliber faculty would certainly influence many students to decide for AUA, even me would.

Good luck,

Magen
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I say things as they are!

[superavacado]

Thank-you once again for the feedback, I really appreciate it.

First of all, I have not made any decision on where I want to go that is why I started this thread to get peoples feedback and input as to what they think. It may sound like I am favoring one school (Windsor) but I am not.

I believe that first impressions leave lasting impressions. When I was doing a search on med schools and trying to figure out which school was better (Antigua or Windsor), I found the Windsor website contained a lot of relevant information and explained more things in detail about their curriculum and what they had to offer to prospective med students. As well, they have mandatory classes that all students have to take to prepare for the USMLE. They also have speical projects (Project 2400) that students can get invovled with which will help them become better physicians.

When I was browsing the Antigua website I found they did now offer students a lof of information into their program besides the basics (curriculum, cost, housing, etc.). They didn't go above and beyond what I think is necessary to attract students. I was actually having a hard time finding some things on the website probably because they didn't bother to include it on their page. Don't get me wrong YOU CAN'T JUDGE A SCHOOL BY ITS WEBSITE but if you're a student trying to get into a foreign med school you are more than likely going to favor a school that has more to offer to its students and provides the student with more information regarding their school. I have no doubt that Antigua has top notch facilities but that is because they are a newer school with a higher tuition cost so they can afford to buy newer supplies and highter so called better profs.

In terms of accreditations, Windsor is accredited and you can find all that information on their website. I don't know who said they are not accredited? Just a silly rumor going around. Both, Windsor and Antigua are WHO affiliated as well. That is obvious.

In terms of money, I hear the same thing over and over time and time again "the more expensive or the more bigger it is, means its better or will last longer." FALSE!!! FALSE!!!! FALSE!!!!

Just because something costs more doesn't necessarily mean it is better. You you have to look at the bigger picture and see which school offers a better program and which school has better affiliations with hospitals in the USA where students are able to do their clinicals. Mind you, both schools have great affiliations with hospitals in the USA but Im guessing because AUA is charging more money for tuition they are probably paying the hospitals in NY more money so I wouldn't doubt it that they have some agreement so NY can accept more students. Also, the head office for Antigua is located in NY so they better have an affiliation with a majority of the hospitals in NY otherwise something is seriously wrong.

Lastly, this is a reply to docplucinski who said that Windsor does not have loans. They sure do!!!

Once it again it sounds like I am defending Windsor which I am sorta but Im just trying to make people aware that you have to do your research. You can't solely rely on a few things for example cost and think just because it costs more to go there its a better school or because they got NY approval and the other school doesn't so its a better school. Granted the profs might be better at Antigua (don't know for sure) but then again, In the end, believe or not, it all depends upon the student and not the prof. How dedicated, hard working, and willing is the student to become a doctor.

I had a friend that went to Aruba medical school and he is now doing his clinical in Indiana. Im sure if I started talking about Aruba med school people would be talking bad about Aruba med school and saying that is it crap because they don't have NY approval and because they don't have a high tuition or because their profs are supposedly not as good as the ones in Antigua.

Another questions??? Where does Antigua stack up against St.George, Ross, Saba, AUC

[MD04]

Originally Posted by superavacado

Thank-you once again for the feedback, I really appreciate it.

First of all, I have not made any decision on where I want to go that is why I started this thread to get peoples feedback and input as to what they think. It may sound like I am favoring one school (Windsor) but I am not.

I believe that first impressions leave lasting impressions. When I was doing a search on med schools and trying to figure out which school was better (Antigua or Windsor), I found the Windsor website contained a lot of relevant information and explained more things in detail about their curriculum and what they had to offer to prospective med students. As well, they have mandatory classes that all students have to take to prepare for the USMLE. They also have speical projects (Project 2400) that students can get invovled with which will help them become better physicians.

When I was browsing the Antigua website I found they did now offer students a lof of information into their program besides the basics (curriculum, cost, housing, etc.). They didn't go above and beyond what I think is necessary to attract students. I was actually having a hard time finding some things on the website probably because they didn't bother to include it on their page. Don't get me wrong YOU CAN'T JUDGE A SCHOOL BY ITS WEBSITE but if you're a student trying to get into a foreign med school you are more than likely going to favor a school that has more to offer to its students and provides the student with more information regarding their school. I have no doubt that Antigua has top notch facilities but that is because they are a newer school with a higher tuition cost so they can afford to buy newer supplies and highter so called better profs.

In terms of accreditations, Windsor is accredited and you can find all that information on their website. I don't know who said they are not accredited? Just a silly rumor going around. Both, Windsor and Antigua are WHO affiliated as well. That is obvious.

In terms of money, I hear the same thing over and over time and time again "the more expensive or the more bigger it is, means its better or will last longer." FALSE!!! FALSE!!!! FALSE!!!!

Just because something costs more doesn't necessarily mean it is better. You you have to look at the bigger picture and see which school offers a better program and which school has better affiliations with hospitals in the USA where students are able to do their clinicals. Mind you, both schools have great affiliations with hospitals in the USA but Im guessing because AUA is charging more money for tuition they are probably paying the hospitals in NY more money so I wouldn't doubt it that they have some agreement so NY can accept more students. Also, the head office for Antigua is located in NY so they better have an affiliation with a majority of the hospitals in NY otherwise something is seriously wrong.

Lastly, this is a reply to docplucinski who said that Windsor does not have loans. They sure do!!!

Once it again it sounds like I am defending Windsor which I am sorta but Im just trying to make people aware that you have to do your research. You can't solely rely on a few things for example cost and think just because it costs more to go there its a better school or because they got NY approval and the other school doesn't so its a better school. Granted the profs might be better at Antigua (don't know for sure) but then again, In the end, believe or not, it all depends upon the student and not the prof. How dedicated, hard working, and willing is the student to become a doctor.

I had a friend that went to Aruba medical school and he is now doing his clinical in Indiana. Im sure if I started talking about Aruba med school people would be talking bad about Aruba med school and saying that is it crap because they don't have NY approval and because they don't have a high tuition or because their profs are supposedly not as good as the ones in Antigua.

Another questions??? Where does Antigua stack up against St.George, Ross, Saba, AUC

Some universities do not even exit they have v.good website. Howmuch it true???????????

[lswiltshire]

Superavacado writes

Once it again it sounds like I am defending Windsor which I am sorta but Im just trying to make people aware that you have to do your research. You can't solely rely on a few things for example cost and think just because it costs more to go there its a better school or because they got NY approval and the other school doesn't so its a better school.

Superavacado it is very clear to us that you are not a prospective student seeking assistance on this forum. Clearly you know so much for a newbie that you can make up your mind which school you want to attend or can afford to attend.

Superavacado why do you think a newbie to this forum can inform the veterans some of whom have been on VMD for at least six years (including its predecessor forum?)

We do understand that Windsor put out some money for its long overdue campus, and that you want to recoup it. We understand too that the competition is now fiercer on St Kitts and in general than when you first began. We understand that the previously successful combination of Dr R---s & Dr T….n got you nervous.

So we do understand Mr Administrator Superavacado why you are pretending to be a student but in reality seeking a free infomercial. Ah lie?

[iaustudent06]

Doesn't AUA have way more ACGME clinical options?

[grobble]

Originally Posted by iaustudent06

Doesn't AUA have way more ACGME clinical options?

AUA posts their clinical sites on the website as many schools that would be consideres 1st tier such as Ross,AUC,Saba,SGU, and 2nd tier St. Mattews, MUA . On the other hand Windsor keeps it a secret as many of the 3rd tier schools do, they won't even tell you if you call their office. My personal opinion i'd like to know something about where I may be going for clinical before I have to give a deposit to get the info on clinical sites.

[iaustudent06]

Originally Posted by superavacado

I found the Windsor website contained a lot of relevant information and explained more things in detail about their curriculum and what they had to offer to prospective med students.

Originally Posted by grobble

On the other hand Windsor keeps it a secret as many of the 3rd tier schools do, they won't even tell you if you call their office.

I agree, I think clinical sites is all the description you need.

Originally Posted by superavacado

Another questions??? Where does Antigua stack up against St.George, Ross, Saba, AUC

For licensure I vote:
SGU (reputation and has 50 states)
Ross (clinical "availability" and has 50 states)
AUC (age and has 50 states)
Saba (4th because it's not on every state approved list but has cali)
AUA (last because not on every approved list either)

[superavacado]

Originally Posted by lswiltshire

Superavacado writes

Once it again it sounds like I am defending Windsor which I am sorta but Im just trying to make people aware that you have to do your research. You can't solely rely on a few things for example cost and think just because it costs more to go there its a better school or because they got NY approval and the other school doesn't so its a better school.

Superavacado it is very clear to us that you are not a prospective student seeking assistance on this forum. Clearly you know so much for a newbie that you can make up your mind which school you want to attend or can afford to attend.

Superavacado why do you think a newbie to this forum can inform the veterans some of whom have been on VMD for at least six years (including its predecessor forum?)

We do understand that Windsor put out some money for its long overdue campus, and that you want to recoup it. We understand too that the competition is now fiercer on St Kitts and in general than when you first began. We understand that the previously successful combination of Dr R---s & Dr T….n got you nervous.

So we do understand Mr Administrator Superavacado why you are pretending to be a student but in reality seeking a free infomercial. Ah lie?

OK Mr. Administrator I must confess all my horrible lies and my interest in trying to find out which school is better. Oh the agony and ALL the pain I have caused the readers. I am surely going to hell for this one. LOL. HAHAHA. For an administrator you really haven't done your homework and are really assuming ALOT considering you don't even know me!!!! Are you even an administrator?? Listen, I don't want to go into personal attacks because nobody wants to get into that.

Ok, I admit I am a newbie (which is obvious) but I am also a prospective student trying to find out which school is better. As soon as I posted my original post everybody started to bash Windsor without really giving me any concrete evidence that it is a bad school. Everybody was talking about how good of a school Antigua is but nobody has any proof. They have NY approval and somewhat better facilities. But that doesn't mean anything. You have to look at the overall picture which some people are not doing. I bet you all the people that posted on this thread have not even attended windsor or antigua. They are going by what they hear or what they read. How credible is that?

You have to really thing about this and use some logic. I am looking at this from the outside and thinking to myself, a school that has been around for 10 yrs (Windsor) and has already graduted 3-4 batches of doctors or Antigua that only started up in 2004 and has only graduated one batch. Logic people LOGIC. Why would you say Windsor is a bad school? I have done a lot of research on both schools and I want people to do the same.

I would have loved to get into St. George but I couldn't. That for sure would have been my 1st choice and I would not even started this thread then.

[Tipton]

Super (guacamole-ingredient)

From reading this thread I get the impression you haven't spoken with anyone in Admissions from AUA...maybe UHSA? They are one of very few schools which will tell you that class attendance isn't required.

For more info about AUA give us a call: 888-282-8633. And yes our website leaves much to be desired...we're working on it.