University of Health Sciences, Antigua

[Genossa maximillian]

I am glad you are well esteemed. You know, some professors get a sick kick out of making students cry in the classroom and humilliating them and using the classroom for ulterior goals, like religious preaching, or politics, etc. Some even get fired (rightfully under such circumstances) for that, even from these flimsy schools. What do you think about such behavior?

Max

Originally Posted by lswiltshire

You have disobeyed the tenets of John 7:24 Sir . Judge righteous judgement and not by the appearance.

You dont know me and you are judging--you are adjudicating without ALL the facts.

Actually in my country I am indeed known to be a good clinician. a good teacher and a good adminstrator. In fact as a youngster I designed the system by which free healthcare is dispensed to the populace at the point of service in my country.

The irony of your post is that you are criticizing me for being a bad physician ( after being one for almost 30 years) , but yet you are seeking to go to train to be a doctor at UHSA? Tut tut tut Thats a bad ball sir. Thats a rank long hop! Run up and bowl gain, but this time let the ball bounce in my half of the wicket.

I am very unhappy about the evils I have encountered at BAD medical schools- like UHSA. ... and I will say it over and over and over

Because I went to a very good school free of cost ( I had an island scholarship) I empathise with those who borrow vast sums of money to attend poor medical schools. But those who are hell bent on attending bad schools, what can I say but try reverse psychology. If thats having a chip well I am a chip factory- and I am unrepentant about that.

I spent many hours eruditely presenting the FACTS about UHSA on this forum in 2003 and 2004. I told the truth then. Azskeptic also waged a war at that time on his website against UHSA then. They were threats to sue him in early 2005. They sent folk to my parents home in my home island on more than one occasion seeking me............for what reason. Just go to Antigua and learn the truth from Antiguans and others who have dealt with this organization.

All I am saying is if you dont like the TRUTH, THEN GO TO UHSA AND DISCOVER IT FOR YOURSELF. BUT HAVING DONE SO BE NICE ENOUGH TO COME TO THIS FORUM AND TELL THE TRUTH.....so that others will benefit from your empirical experience. Go and see the only library in the world with out a librarian because there are no books in it that anyone would want to steal. Go and see form and fashion with no substance exhibited.
Ask yourself why is it that the AUA students and the average Antiguan dont even know where to find a school that exists in their little island since 1982. Instead of judging me ask yourself how is it that Ross and SGU began around the same time, and are well known.... yet UHSA is not.

Ask yourself why it is that AUA started in 2004 and has NY recognition. Dont worry about my chip sir . I practiced medicine and built a small real estate empire. Will you be able to practice anywhere when you graduate from UHSA.Will you be able to find clinical rotations by the "big brother / big sister" way they advocate. Keep on criticizing me man. Its so funny.


If you and G Max have problems with that, that is your problem. I will sleep well tonight anyway. I like what I have said, and I like how I have said it. And I dont care what you think of me, because you dont know me, and praise GOd I dont depend on either of you for my daily bread, my flying fish, or my rice and peas, or my coconut bread !

[Genossa maximillian]

University of West Indies, established in 1948. One of the oldest schools of the Caribbean, part of what some call the original big 3 of the region which were the BWI, Cuba, Puerto Rico. Hard to get in.

Originally Posted by kanson

where is uwi? never heard of it.

[BORDER COLLIE]

interesting....

[lswiltshire]

I am glad you are well esteemed. You know, some professors get a sick kick out of making students cry in the classroom and humilliating them and using the classroom for ulterior goals, like religious preaching, or politics, etc. Some even get fired (rightfully under such circumstances) for that, even from these flimsy schools. What do you think about such behavior?

No max. I don’t make students cry in the classroom. I am the opposite I make them laugh. I tell some of the jokes collected around the way. Cartoons amidst the powerpoints etc Anything to break up the tension and pressure of having to concentrate for long periods. There is nothing more I love than laughing. But I don’t laugh at or encourage laughing at the students.

Rather than humiliating students there is the need to encourage by sharing simple experiences. Just made over 100 students in a class laugh by telling them that I still often have nightmares about finals. The students had expressed the idea that they were feeling as if they were not remembering stuff.

Im not into politics but I know the Word well, and I will quote it as in the post above without preaching. I have never been fired for that. I focus on the material man. There is never enough time it seems to get through all that is needed. A recent Australian report reveals that students today have to cover much more material than before in unit time and still maintain certain standards.

And to Border Collie
You, my dear sir, are so full of anger that it makes it difficult to read your responses without bias. I apologize if my little questions evoked such hostility, but there certainly is a better way to express oneself. Not to worry...I will not bother you again.


I am not at all angry, nor hostile. Nor is there a need to apologize. It just hurts so much to see or even hear of folk even contemplating even attending “places” like JBGDL, CMU, IUHS, UHSA etc. and having to pay for the privilege of arranging their own clinicals and being unable to get registered etc.

Off course I have a bias against bad medical schools. I don’t apologize for that. I abhor bad Bible teaching and bad medical schools.

But I can honestly say that I have NEVER EVER LIED ABOUT ANYTHING IN THIS FORUM.

And there is nothing at all wrong with my command of the English language dear Sir. My message remains the same as sarcastic as it is……… Since you obviously want to go to UHSA………..then GO. Then when you get there …..Come back to the forum and tell us about it. That’s fair, isn’t it? Where is the anger and the hostility? Au contraire, because I know what you must report back if you are honest. After all, a leopard does not change its spots………….even though you must “catch a tiger by the tail.”

There are far better options even among the worse of Carribean schools than UHSA Sir! As much as you may like, I just cant honestly tell you otherwise.

[Genossa maximillian]

Thanks for your candor. My comment was anecdotal, making a point by using an example of someone I am familiar with who did exactly what I said, very unprofessional. I don't think I said you have done that, unless you know of someone who had, like I do.

Thanks

"There are far better options even among the worse of Carribean schools than UHSA Sir! As much as you may like, I just cant honestly tell you otherwise."

How do you compare Windsor's HCP program with UHSA and IUHS? I noticed there is a significant difference in physical requirement attendance.

Originally Posted by lswiltshire

I am glad you are well esteemed. You know, some professors get a sick kick out of making students cry in the classroom and humilliating them and using the classroom for ulterior goals, like religious preaching, or politics, etc. Some even get fired (rightfully under such circumstances) for that, even from these flimsy schools. What do you think about such behavior?

No max. I don’t make students cry in the classroom. I am the opposite I make them laugh. I tell some of the jokes collected around the way. Cartoons amidst the powerpoints etc Anything to break up the tension and pressure of having to concentrate for long periods. There is nothing more I love than laughing. But I don’t laugh at or encourage laughing at the students.

Rather than humiliating students there is the need to encourage by sharing simple experiences. Just made over 100 students in a class laugh by telling them that I still often have nightmares about finals. The students had expressed the idea that they were feeling as if they were not remembering stuff.

Im not into politics but I know the Word well, and I will quote it as in the post above without preaching. I have never been fired for that. I focus on the material man. There is never enough time it seems to get through all that is needed. A recent Australian report reveals that students today have to cover much more material than before in unit time and still maintain certain standards.

And to Border Collie
You, my dear sir, are so full of anger that it makes it difficult to read your responses without bias. I apologize if my little questions evoked such hostility, but there certainly is a better way to express oneself. Not to worry...I will not bother you again.


I am not at all angry, nor hostile. Nor is there a need to apologize. It just hurts so much to see or even hear of folk even contemplating even attending “places” like JBGDL, CMU, IUHS, UHSA etc. and having to pay for the privilege of arranging their own clinicals and being unable to get registered etc.

Off course I have a bias against bad medical schools. I don’t apologize for that. I abhor bad Bible teaching and bad medical schools.

But I can honestly say that I have NEVER EVER LIED ABOUT ANYTHING IN THIS FORUM.

And there is nothing at all wrong with my command of the English language dear Sir. My message remains the same as sarcastic as it is……… Since you obviously want to go to UHSA………..then GO. Then when you get there …..Come back to the forum and tell us about it. That’s fair, isn’t it? Where is the anger and the hostility? Au contraire, because I know what you must report back if you are honest. After all, a leopard does not change its spots………….even though you must “catch a tiger by the tail.”

There are far better options even among the worse of Carribean schools than UHSA Sir! As much as you may like, I just cant honestly tell you otherwise.

[kanson]

Originally Posted by Genossa maximillian

University of West Indies, established in 1948. One of the oldest schools of the Caribbean, part of what some call the original big 3 of the region which were the BWI, Cuba, Puerto Rico. Hard to get in.

Thanks Genossa, in my opinion, I think we shouldn't be judging which Caribbean med school is better. We are all considered Caribbean med students. We should be supporting each other instead of criticizing one another. I think when we do our residencies in the states, local MD graduates we discriminate us and look down on us as second class. We have to be strong and over come the storm ahead of us and stand by each other. We all have the same goal of obtaining an MD degree. I truly believe that it doesn't matter what school you go to, just as long as you pass the boards and get your license is all that matters. Good luck and God bless.

[lswiltshire]

How do you compare Windsor's HCP program with UHSA and IUHS? I noticed there is a significant difference in physical requirement attendance.

Max. Although I am not one who favors the lack of “physical requirement attendance” I can appreciate that it is possible to design and implement a distance learning program for medicine.

What I saw at IUHS or UHSA was just not satisfactorily implemented. Also the concept of long distance Medicine is not yet generally accepted.

When I was at IUHS, even the physical program on the island was unsatisfactory, as it was conducted on the basis of 80 cases. We lectured each week around the information to fully understand these 80 cases, eg asthma, cystic fibrosis. And the students spent two mornings a week at the local hospital, where they were exposed to good UWI type teaching from the UWI trained doctors they met on the wards there.

I am sure that they learned from the hospital experience, and I am sure that with diligence the on island students appreciated the 80 cases.

However, there are MORE than 80 cases to know in Medicine. The students had long lists of links and pages to read from texts with little feed back/interaction from staff. I beleve that the education re the cases ought to have been additional lectures delivered by a panel of staff members as a means of integrating the several Basic Sciences. In fact in my stint at St Martinus, I actually got the students and some of the staff to put on a series of prersentations once a week after the normal days activities in which we covered the diseases of prostate gland, asthma, ovarian tumors etc.

The situation with the offshore students was ridiculous and most chaotic and disorganized, because a solitary eccentric man was conducting all of the eight online modules simultaneously all the time- an impossibility.

There are some who favor full training on campus and those who feel that Basic sciences can be done online. And this has been argued ad infinitum ad nauseam que on this forum for years. And the major point that must be grasped has been ignored because of bias by those who favor one or either of the two ways of doing it.

I will say this from the experiences I have seen. It is harder to run a long distance program successfully. It requires more staff members and better and more experienced staff, and takes a little more time to implement.

If you will get some green new graduate to teach a Basic Science subject who has no love or passion for teaching the subject you are failing the student. Unless that recent graduate is someone like those who did the extra year as an honors student in that subject (as occurs in some British programs) and one who can teach well, the student might as well study long distance. I have also seen the scenario, where subjects are offered out of order because the school did not have the proper number of staff members dedicated to or capable of teaching the subject. I have seen cases where PhD men teach the subject but cant relate it to medicine. I have seen the case where the PhD man teaching Behavioral science got his PhD from some guru school and did not know how to interpret the USMLE objectives, and had the students very loss!

I am saying that I have seen so much ** offered on campus in the name of on campus Basic Science teaching or exposure to unsuspecting medical students, that it is mind boggling. Hence, I no longer attack the horrors that I met when armed with my UWI degree and 2o plus years experience I landed in St Kitts to teach at IUHS. Many schools out there pretend to be going by the book and offering an American curriculum, but they might as well be doing the madness I saw on campus at IUHS in 2002.

On the other hand there are some who come on this forum saying school A B and C in the US have this subject online or does part of their program online. If you can accept that why cant you accept the IUHS or UHSA program.

One reason is these US schools are established and they have many staff members in each of the relevant departments. IUHS and UHSA have little or no staff. UHSA has visiting staff that is conscripted according to who is available at any point in time, and according to who answer the letters of request fastest.

I submit to the scoffers without fear of contradiction that the solitary chap who was running the 8 modules on the 80 cases at IUHS every week was doing the impossible. ON the other hand a US school with 10-20 physicians and researchers say in the Biochem Department, can easily among them set up a suitable Biochem program that can be done online…………….and with good result. I know it can be done, because I can see how I can personally deliver such a program complete with a suitable question bank on each topic or concept, that will enable me to see if the student has grasped the concept. I however CAN NOT do it for ALL the subjects in the curriculum. Nor could I run the Biochem program with all the other subjects concurrently.


I will discuss the UHSA and Windsor scenarios in other posts.

[Doc.S]

RoHudTuffy

Who are You, .. and why are you saying all this, it comes under "misguidance" you are not giving out the whole picture. Are you sincere in saying what you are saying, or does all this goody goody talk goes by Akande, to give you some extra credits.

Akande is an evil person, (devil's incarnation) .. I belong to a group of students, .. (almost 100 +) who left the school in 1994 after spending 02 years there and the whole group left one time, filed cases and complaints against Akande and even met the P.M. Mr. Bird. Amongst the Student was also Yelana Bird, P.M.'s grand daughter.

REASON: he had lied and misrepresented, .. students not on loans were made to pay a years tution in advance ( as in my case) He refused to issue / release transcripts, The guy is PURE un beleivingly evil. I lost 42,000 $ there and am scared for life from that experience. Although I managed to re-start and finish my education.

By the way is Dr. Sud still teaches there and falls asleep during the class lecture.
Huh!

Have some concience, .. I can understand if a grad of UHSA cannot talk bad, .. but atleast do not misguide other's into Akande's Evil Trap. What goes around comes around.

[lswiltshire]

RoHudTuffy is a prevaricator of the order of the Akande. He reminds me of the false prophet and the beast giving morship to the antichrist. For that is what the Akande likes—for people to tell him how good he is, and that he has done them good by bringing them to his silly school.

You are right, I have never seen a grad of UHSA come into this forum or the old Hanson’s forum that preceded it to say a good word about UHSA. That is one of the reasons why UHSA has never listed on this forum when it started in early 2003.

It is definitely wrong, in fact reprobate and reprehensible for RoHudTuffy or anyone who knows the truth to misguide other's into the Akande's Evil Trap
To say that Akande is an evil person and the devil's incarnation is a great understatement. I have met few men as wicked and despicable as the Akande.

Thanks for giving us this new piece of history of UHSA
I belong to a group of students, .. (almost 100 +) who left the school in 1994 after spending 02 years there and the whole group left one time, filed cases and complaints against Akande and even met the P.M. Mr. Bird.
Amongst the Student was also Yelana Bird, P.M.'s grand daughter.
REASON: he had lied and misrepresented, .. students not on loans were made to pay a years tution in advance ( as in my case) He refused to issue / release transcripts, The guy is PURE un beleivingly evil. I lost 42,000 $ there and am scared for life from that experience.

There is a very brilliant man (pardon the sarcasm) on the St Martinus forum who would call your post psychobabble, but for those who had to deal with the ‘Charirman” we know tthat you are telling the truth.

It is good that you were able to re-start and finish your education.

As far as I know S- D is still there with his hair died a reddish color.

You have to experience these things for people to believe you.

The wrongs things that are done to folk in the offshore American school industry has to be experienced to be believed.

[UHSADOC]

Well, after reading some of the posts here......UHSA is a great university, it will get you though the boards, and teach you the essentials in order to become a good physician.
Many are Licensed MDs worldwide, and have great things to say about the program.
The Faculty is fantastic..........and let me remind you that most Caribbean schools are lumped together, so school's bashing is not a good idea, regardless......

The campus in Antigua is REALLY nice, with a great restaurant and dorms.........more than many new or old caribbean schools/universities.

10 Facts About UHSA, School of Medicine:
1. It is one of the OLDEST Caribbean medical schools, since 1982
2. Renowned Faculty, many are experts in their field
3. Over 2000 Graduates practicing worldwide
4. Nice Dorms and Restaurant on Campus
5. Affordable Tuition: under $10,000 per semester
6. 90% Pass Rate on All Parts of the USMLEs
7. Rotations are in ACGME Accredited Hospitals
8. Community Service in Antigua offered by UHSA Students
9. Affiliated with Several Accredited Universities across the Globe
10. One of the FEW Caribbean Medical Schools to have Postgraduate programs in Tropical Medicine, aside from MD, DVM and RN Degrees.

As a UHSA graduate, and a practicing physician I hope this forum, will screen potential MDs, as I find the language used and communication, among its members to be somewhat offensive and biased.

Best wishes to everyone !