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Old 05-08-2008, 08:49 AM
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Seems to be two different scams instad of one

It seems to me that they would have to have two different IMED listings. One for each proram. As it stands now, neither version is IMED listed.

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Old 05-08-2008, 10:09 AM
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What about the possibility...?

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What about the possibility that what they are trying to do is to get IMED listed with the curriculum they are offering to Mexican students, which leads to the Baccalaureate of Medicine and Surgery after 6.5 years, and then offer American medical students a degree which is worthless, a Doctor of Medicine which they get in three years?

See what I mean? The worthless degree for Americans would be granted by an IMED listed school.
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:59 AM
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What you are suggesting is likely what they have in mind. Just another way around to call themselves IMED listed. I'm sure they just hope nobody will notice. This place get dirtier every day. I think they are setting up this way in the hope that they can become eligible for Stafford loans.

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And then...

There is the question about exactly who owns the school and who has legal responsibility for what is going on. The documents posted in their English website mention two corporations: Med School Group LLC, is an American entity, which as the "LLC" indicates is a for-profit limited liability entity. Then there is Med School Group AC, a Mexican not-for-profit entity as the "AC" reveals, and it is this last which would be granted the use of some land. Now, in the Spanish website, has appeared a third entity: Escuela de Medicina Jose Bernardo Gutierrez de Lara AC, again a not-for-profit entity, chartered in the State of Nuevo Leon, to which the State of Tamaulipas has granted the permission to operate as a "modalidad escolarizada" med school (which means they have to teach in a classroom, not online), and put students through a 6.5 years curriculum to obtain a baccalaureate of medicine and surgery.

Exactly what are the relations between these three entities? Why was the Escuela de Medicina Bernardo Gutierrez de Lara AC never mentioned before? Does it really exist?

Why do you need three entities, in three states, in two nations to run one medical school with two curricula?

When you go to study there who is responsible for teaching you your money's worth?

When you go to work there, who hired you?
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zombie med school

it just wont die!!!
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zombie med school
where you learn zombie physiology in the first semester
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A mouthful

The following is taken and faithfully translated from the school's Spanish website. It is the introduction to what is called the "professional profile" of the baccalauri of medicine and surgery that graduate from the school. Read carefully. The Spanish is not only bomastic, which you can see in the translation, look at the fact that they are offering a baccalaureate degree and see if you can tell me what some of the "multidimensional" sentences mean.

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Perfil del Egresado
El médico cirujano egresado de nuestra institución educativa, poseerá una serie de competencias expresadas en grandes campos, que permitirán una práctica profesional de alta excelencia; permitiendo con ello la transformación de las ciencias de la salud.

El conjunto de rasgos que componen el perfil profesional, mantienen una relación intrínseca multidimensional que tiene conexión con la propuesta curricular que se está plantando. En ese sentido, el egresado de la licenciatura de médico cirujano, deberá contar al final de su proceso formativo con las siguientes:

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The physician surgeon who is egressed from our educational institution will possess a series of competencies expressed in great fields, which will permit a professional practice of high excellence; permitting with that the transformation of the health sciences.

The set of features that compose the professional profile maintain an intrinsic multidimensional relation that has a connection with the curricular proposal that is being planted. In this sense, the eggressed of the baccalaureate of physician surgeon will have to have the following: (many competencies follow).
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Careful analysis of the information available in the photographs in the school's two websites reveals that the following are the REAL assets of the med school:

1 classroom of modest size
16 student desks and chairs (approx)
1 skeleton
1 green and white board
1 screen
1 overhead projector
1 lcd projector
2 computers (possibly)
1 podium
1 printer
109 books
1 6.5 year curriculum for Mexican students
1 3 year curriculum for American students
1 state of Tamaulipas license to grant the baccalaureate of medicine and surgery degree (6.5 year curriculum)
1 letter informing owners about request to use a certain tract of land
1 undated letter from a person who is no longer the mayor of Guerrero
1 website in Spanish
1 website in English
1 faculty person
Some assorted, unidentifiable small stuff

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Careful analysis of the information available in the photographs in the school's two websites reveals that the following are the REAL assets of the med school:

1 classroom of modest size
16 student desks and chairs (approx)
1 skeleton
1 green and white board
1 screen
1 overhead projector
1 lcd projector
2 computers (possibly)
1 podium
1 printer
109 books
1 6.5 year curriculum for Mexican students
1 3 year curriculum for American students
1 state of Tamaulipas license to grant the baccalaureate of medicine and surgery degree (6.5 year curriculum)
1 letter informing owners about request to use a certain tract of land
1 undated letter from a person who is no longer the mayor of Guerrero
1 website in Spanish
1 website in English
1 faculty person
Some assorted, unidentifiable small stuff
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Old 05-14-2008, 08:38 PM
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Oh there is nothing like seeing a stumping in cricket!

Just think they might still have had the charter from the Cooks Government, if only they had not gone down the wicket and been found out side of the crease!

Oh how they must regret that mistake!

Before they could look around they were OUT! STUMPED!

Clik clix! Bails off! Out! Stumped!


Fellas they had the Cooks guys in the palm of thier hands with two deceptive doctors giving a false report of the school in the Cooks.


Their eyes opened wide and then they jumped down the wicket to meet that juicy looking ball...........BUT the ball was a GOOGLY!


It turned, and the bails were removed click, clix.


The title of that googly I am told was WHY THE COOKS GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT GIVE SPSOM A CHARTER!
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