Any chance of getting screwed?

[ausmil]

I hear rumor that the US is in review to not accept any IMG into their residency programs. Is this true? If I were to get accepted a caribbean medical school would I get all the way through school and get screwed on a residency after all the work because the US changed their mind? Could this ever happen?

[Dr.Azimi]

no tis is not true, if that happened then 1/2 of the residencies of USA would not even be full. d

[jameslynton]

Originally Posted by ausmil

I hear rumor that the US is in review to not accept any IMG into their residency programs. Is this true? If I were to get accepted a caribbean medical school would I get all the way through school and get screwed on a residency after all the work because the US changed their mind? Could this ever happen?

This is a good question - in a Good Year US school accept about 17,500 students into medical programs. Since the early 70's - there are on average about 23,000 to 24,000+/- residency postitions available (this is an appromate - you can research the exact number on several websites dealing with residentcy placement - so do a bit of searching). Now some of these are not something you would want - however, you still get your training in them. US schools do have losses of student between the start and the end. so they maybe supply 16,000+ to 17,000+ students finish. The rest come from FMG's. Currently of all the MD's in practice in the US about 23-26% are FMG grads(this stat is open to many factors and I have seen them all over the place 1/4 is not 1/2). Do they all come from islands schools - No. Do all the programs fill their open positions - no.

So the point is research and read for yourself - don't believe rumors for example 'Like the AMA is going to stop all FMG's into the US'. The AMA does journals (like JAMA) and is a lobbying organization - which has many FMG's as members. However, no program director's are going to deep six canidates when they can't fill positions and need to meet corporate service objectives. Medicine is a business.

[jameslynton]

Originally Posted by Dr.Azimi

no tis is not true, if that happened then 1/2 of the residencies of USA would not even be full. d

Hey - Please don't post stuff that is misleading and inaccurate. On this forum - you can find links to many sites where you can research and give pretty good ballpark answers to a question like this one. If you are shooting from the hip - then say so. OK? Do your research before your fingers do the walking and talking. Thanks!!!

[MYMD]

Originally Posted by ausmil

I hear rumor that the US is in review to not accept any IMG into their residency programs. Is this true? If I were to get accepted a caribbean medical school would I get all the way through school and get screwed on a residency after all the work because the US changed their mind? Could this ever happen?

NO that would have to be national and each state regulates things just as residencies are individual programs, the Match is like a club the programs belong to, if FMG's and IMG's were kept out of the match then 1. thats illegal in the US, and 2. it makes no darn sense. Why would they want to cut out IMG's and FMG's? Because of some of the snobs who do not like them? The premed MD wanna be's who waist time ( like I'm doing now) on SDN posting that witch docors are teaching us medicine in the Caribbean? Please do not believe rumors. Remember Federal Student loans are given to 3 schools in the Caribbean, if they all of a sudden stop those loans then start to panic till then too much money is going to these schools assuming it's thousands of students ( which I know it is). It makes no sense and when a RUMOR makes no sense ok to ask but lets not keep telling the same lie.

[stephew]

not true and not possible. in 1996 there was a national push to cut residency programs so just us grads would be practicing. what happened? not enough docs, duh. They reexpanded in spite of federal funds if they cut. Long and the short of it is there are not enough uS grads.
mymd, what sdn thread are you talking about ?

[stephew]

Originally Posted by Dr.Azimi

no tis is not true, if that happened then 1/2 of the residencies of USA would not even be full. d

more like 15%. there are in excess 15% more residencies than US grads, approximately

[MYMD]

Originally Posted by stephew

not true and not possible. in 1996 there was a national push to cut residency programs so just us grads would be practicing. what happened? not enough docs, duh. They reexpanded in spite of federal funds if they cut. Long and the short of it is there are not enough uS grads.
mymd, what sdn thread are you talking about ?

How could they do this legaly? The big 4 make millions and can afford to take them to court over this in a heart beat. Oh I was just mouthing off , but there is a thread in Caribbean where the poster states that there is no shortage of docs it's the trouble for FMG thread or something, he claims the AMA is a good resource along with a JAMA article and that the real life experiences of MD's not taking new patients isn't because of a shortage it's because of people not having the "Right kind of insurance" those people are the problem WIth the right kind of insurance (enough money) then there's plenty of Docs per his post.

[MYMD]

Originally Posted by stephew

more like 15%. there are in excess 15% more residencies than US grads, approximately

You know stats are stats, I looked at the match for FP and since 2003 there are a number that are unfilled, and the number offered went down too, this may be due to them being unfilled anyway I think. Also in your 15% are you including outside the match and prematched? How about programs that are not in the match?

I think it's interesting too about the 96 push ( 10 years ago) Canada did a simular thing and also dropped it, maybe 911 and time have changed the focus some along with grads like you Steph!

[stephew]

Originally Posted by MYMD

How could they do this legaly? The big 4 make millions and can afford to take them to court over this in a heart beat. Oh I was just mouthing off , but there is a thread in Caribbean where the poster states that there is no shortage of docs it's the trouble for FMG thread or something, he claims the AMA is a good resource along with a JAMA article and that the real life experiences of MD's not taking new patients isn't because of a shortage it's because of people not having the "Right kind of insurance" those people are the problem WIth the right kind of insurance (enough money) then there's plenty of Docs per his post.

its perfectly legal. residency spots are paid for by medicare. there is a good april 1999 article about it and why it failed.