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    Top 10 Caribbean Medical Schools

    Ijust would like to get some feedback on various individuals ranking of the top 10 medical schools in the caribbean and how they dertermined their rankings. Also if anybody wants comment of the worst schools internaltionally and ones that were here today and gone tommorrow and any that are currently operating shaddy programs or even illegal programs.


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    JERRY,JERRY,JERRY!!!!!. look at past history. beyond Ross, AUC, SGU, and possibly Saba, you are talking about schools that have not had any track record. that is not to say that someday they will become a top school. the problem in medicine is that residency directors know US and Canadian schools, they know a coupel foreign schools, and they wont even give the time of day to the others. and yes, no matter where you go, a fail of step 1 is death. but thats the bueaty of all of these schools. they give almost everyone a chance to prove that the schools in the states who rejected them where wrong. if you fail the steps, its likely not the fault of your repsective school. its likely just further proof that the US schools where right about you!

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    what do you mean by "they won't even give the time of day to the others"?

    i thought that if you have a 95/235 from one school, a residency director will see this applicant as a good, strong student, regardless of the school.

    it was my opinion that RDs see each student individually, and not so much based on the school.
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    some RDs will give you a shot. but most will say "fluke from some shady school, rather not take the chance". the way the ERAS computer system works is that they RD can program in parameters. he doesnt even see your app if it fails on a single parameter. he can program it to say 1. all US schools 2. all canadian schools. 3. school x from carib 4. school y from pakistan 5. school z from india. you can score a 270 from spartan and he doesnt even see your app. i have seen them leave out certain US schools even(based on bad experiences). i think it would be rare to say "show everyone witha score higher then 185." they could potentially get 2000 apps to look at. they may actually get 5000 apps(exageration, rarely a program will get more then 1000 total apps, of which they may look at 100), but only 2000 meet the parameters to even show as a result. RDs are too busy to look at that many apps. where i was, the one year we got soemthing like 1000 apps, of which they looked at about 100, interviewed 28, for 10 spots, and still filled on match day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim
    ... the problem in medicine is that residency directors know US and Canadian schools...they wont even give the time of day to the others. ...
    First, who is Jerry??? Next - sound like you had a bad experience or you have big school bias. IF what you say is true why is a St James Grad at Stony Brook School of Medicine? Here is the link.

    http://www.hsc.stonybrook.edu/som/fa..._residents.cfm

    It looks like this residence director was not listening to you.
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    Jerry was in refference to buz' comment about jerry springer. and i did not say that every single RD would never give you achance. i just said basically taht you go with the odds. and the odds get drastically lower when you move away from the better known schools. for all you know his PD may have a friend who teaches at st james. things like that can give you a leg up. but when you figure how much you are spending on this crapshoot, you want to go with the best odds at winning. st james is DEFINETLY not good odds. like i said, 10 years down the road it may have abetter rep, lots more grads, and its odds may be better. its like buying a new car. you NEVER buy a car until the model has been out long enough to work out the bugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim
    some RDs will give you a shot. ...the one year we got something like 1000 apps, of which they looked at about 100, interviewed 28, for 10 spots, and still filled on match day.
    That sounds like most US medical schools. Yea - some programs are like that and others are not. Just as some business don't want you unless you have a MBA from a top ten b-school. Then you operate the copier.

    So what - there are many others that will take you. That is what you are missing. I also get your point that being from a big school does have its advantages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim
    Jerry was in refference to buz' comment about jerry springer. and i did not say that every single RD would never give you achance. i just said basically taht you go with the odds. and the odds get drastically lower when you move away from the better known schools. for all you know his PD may have a friend who teaches at st james. things like that can give you a leg up. but when you figure how much you are spending on this crapshoot, you want to go with the best odds at winning. st james is DEFINETLY not good odds. like i said, 10 years down the road it may have abetter rep, lots more grads, and its odds may be better. its like buying a new car. you NEVER buy a car until the model has been out long enough to work out the bugs.
    Oh that Jerry - Odds are a funny thing - I see people beat um and I see people fall to them. At Ross and AUC they also have hefty drop out rates so right there 4 out of ten belly flop at those schools. At SGU they deacel you. So for those who make it they have beat a few odds already.
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    residency is the single most important part of your medical education. you want to seek out the best possible program. that means the ones who are harder to get in, more particular. if they offer a pre-match, chances are they suck. (every friend of mine who got a pre-match left after their first year, because the programs sucked!). if they interview anyone who applies, they probably suck. dont just go with the "well, somebody will take me" attitude. stick with the "i want the best to want me" attitude.

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    the rates of asttrition at a school are not soemthing to use to compare schools. too many variables. my class had its largest attrition rate before we had even had an exam. soem people got weeded out by US schools because something was seen in their app that was ared flag. going to a offshore school with a 3% attrition rate is stupid. if all those people were that good, they would be at harvard. passing somebody just for the sake of passing them is called a diploma mill. its the kind of thing we should all be fighting against, as it lessens the value of our degrees. my beef at Ross was that they didnt fail enough. i had classmates who were weak, and shouldhave been held back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim
    residency is the single most important part of your medical education. you want to seek out the best possible program....if they interview anyone who applies, they probably suck. dont just go with the "well, somebody will take me" attitude. stick with the "I want the best to want me" attitude.
    Already have an idea where I want to go and do. I agree with the above statements. I do like the "want the best to want me attitude". Reading between the lines of many posts - I see many people are just trying to make it. They are not attempting to be the best they can be.
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