california

[Picard]

Pat Park is being quoted from a taped conversation as saying that neither Ross nor SGU grads licensure applications (perm) will be accepted. IOW, she is saying she will make sure she rejects your application for license.

Just curious if anyone has heard about problems with either of those schools and what legal action will be required to force it thru.

Please provide your source. Ms. Park has on numerous occasions, on this forum, confirmed California approval of SGU/Ross/AUC. And guess what, there are hundreds and hundreds, of SGU/Ross grads practicing in California... My co-chief and I are both licensed physicians in the state of California... both of us are SGU grads. And as recent as last month, SGU grads received California licensure... and there are many, many SGU, Ross, AUC students currently in clinical rotations in California -- and we all know that unapproved schools cannot have rotations in California...

Ummm, or could this be attempted trolling again? Wouldn't be the first time.

P

[futrphysician]

Neil: Don't ever accuse me of trying to start a rumor or lying. That makes you essentially a coward because you do so without seeing me personally

Picard: I said this because that is what I thought. She is quoted on this taped conversation as saying she would reject the licensure apps and send back the checks. I thought there were already licensed docs there and thought the better of her comment. I think she just has a chip on her shoulder. That is all.

SC hasn't started Cal licensing yet. I have been told directly that NY and Fla are on the docket now. Since you are the expert in all things licensure, I expect some pithy comment about SC being rejected. Flame away...as is usual.

[neilc]

Originally Posted by futrphysician

Neil: Don't ever accuse me of trying to start a rumor or lying. That makes you essentially a coward because you do so without seeing me personally

Picard: I said this because that is what I thought. She is quoted on this taped conversation as saying she would reject the licensure apps and send back the checks. I thought there were already licensed docs there and thought the better of her comment. I think she just has a chip on her shoulder. That is all.

SC hasn't started Cal licensing yet. I have been told directly that NY and Fla are on the docket now. Since you are the expert in all things licensure, I expect some pithy comment about SC being rejected. Flame away...as is usual.

well, then how can i hear this tape? it sounds like a rumor to me...

[futrphysician]

I'll ask the person who is in charge of it to make it available to you when you get here.

[PatPark]

Futrphysician: Apparently, some school names got garbled along the way in a past conversation between me and someone else. The 4 English-language Caribbean schools that the California Medical Board recognizes are: AUC, Ross, St. George's and University of the West Indies. Our staff will return misdirected applications and refund checks if we receive applications from students/graduates of medical schools that are unrecognized or disapproved in California. For these schools, we have no legal authority to accept and process applications. We seldom receive applications from ineligible individuals because the Internet helps to keep people informed and better able to access accurate information about which schools are recognized in their home states. Thanks for bringing up this subject.

[dt]

Originally Posted by PatPark

Futrphysician: Apparently, some school names got garbled along the way in a past conversation between me and someone else. The 4 English-language Caribbean schools that the California Medical Board recognizes are: AUC, Ross, St. George's and University of the West Indies. Our staff will return misdirected applications and refund checks if we receive applications from students/graduates of medical schools that are unrecognized or disapproved in California. For these schools, we have no legal authority to accept and process applications. We seldom receive applications from ineligible individuals because the Internet helps to keep people informed and better able to access accurate information about which schools are recognized in their home states. Thanks for bringing up this subject.

Wow, thanks for a classy response.

At least we know California is keeping an eye on these forums... LOL

[dt]

Let me point out that the official language of Senegal is French. See this link to confirm: http://imed.ecfmg.org/details.asp?co...20020&psize=25


Since St. Chris, Luton, language of instruction is in English, is not St. Chris also in the same situation as other medical schools that have English language programs, for eg, Czech, Hungary, Poland, Romania, etc?


Hmmm, maybe St. Chris' English program will be easier to get approved since it is quite possible that the Luton campus is much more superior than the Senegal campus?

[neilc]

Originally Posted by dt

Let me point out that the official language of Senegal is French. See this link to confirm: http://imed.ecfmg.org/details.asp?co...20020&psize=25


Since St. Chris, Luton, language of instruction is in English, is not St. Chris also in the same situation as other medical schools that have English language programs, for eg, Czech, Hungary, Poland, Romania, etc?


Hmmm, maybe St. Chris' English program will be easier to get approved since it is quite possible that the Luton campus is much more superior than the Senegal campus?

two reasons that it is not the same:
1. the eastern european english language programs are all taught in the same country as the charter is held in
2. the eastern european programs (at least the 6 year programs) require that you pass a language examination (in our case it is the same exam that foreign docs wanting to practice here must pass) and graduation makes you immediately eligible for licensure

i have a feeling that the st chris approval process, if they do apply, will be a bit different then the 6 year eastern european programs. we are pretty much exact mirrors of already approved programs, with well established facilities, research, faculty, etc...it is a bit different when you are talking about newer schools that are built from scratch. i imagine that the facilities, faculty, clinical sites, etc...would get a very good looking over.

(by the way, these are just my impressions, none of this is official california information)

[Miklos]

Originally Posted by dt

Let me point out that the official language of Senegal is French. See this link to confirm: http://imed.ecfmg.org/details.asp?co...20020&psize=25


Since St. Chris, Luton, language of instruction is in English, is not St. Chris also in the same situation as other medical schools that have English language programs, for eg, Czech, Hungary, Poland, Romania, etc?


Hmmm, maybe St. Chris' English program will be easier to get approved since it is quite possible that the Luton campus is much more superior than the Senegal campus?

As NeilC mentioned above, plus I would like to add:

The medical curriculum in Hungary is enshrined in law, and it is no different whether it is taught in English or Hungarian. It is a mirror to the local program. All those things required of the locals are required of the visitors. Additionally, the Hungarian Med Schools are state sponsored institutions, not private med schools...

I suspect that the situation is identical or nearly identical in most Central European countries.

[Art Vandelay]

Originally Posted by futrphysician

Pat Park is being quoted from a taped conversation as saying that neither Ross nor SGU grads licensure applications (perm) will be accepted. IOW, she is saying she will make sure she rejects your application for license.

Just curious if anyone has heard about problems with either of those schools and what legal action will be required to force it thru.

If you are saying this to force Pat Park to comment on this thread, then I have to say this is very smart of you.