FACTS to some of your accusations

[SKL]

Originally Posted by The Messenger

As a second enticement, myself and all of the students entering medical school with me were promised that if we went to the new campus on Nevis in the West Indies, our tuition would remain the same throughout our time in medical school. ..... One semester later, the tuition went up over $1000 per term. The administration denied ever making the promise to EVERYONE.

FACTS: Tuition was $3,950 for Sept. 2001; $4,450 for Sept. 2002 and $4,950 for Jan. 2003. We applied so early for enrollment in Sept. 2002 that school asked us if we want to start in Sept. 2001 so I know back then it was $3950. But when we actually started in Sept. 2002, it went up to $ $4450, then $4950 after one term we were in school and up to now. So went up $1,000 after one term is totally incorrect. We never were promised same tuition over our course of study.

Originally Posted by The Messenger

What was not told to us before we left for the island, was that we could only live in the dorms for the first semester only and from them on we had to fend for ourselves. The islanders charged phenomenal prices for dumps and most were so far from campus the most students had to rent junker island cars for $600 to $800 per month just to get to school.

FACTS: Car rental here is about ~U$300 / month. For U$300 - U$400, you could get sth like a 4 doors Suzuki Sidekick (the long one, not the 2 door short one). Just today, I saw an advertisement on RAMs (the largest supermarket). For U$1000, you can rent a house which has 2 large bedrooms, each with private bath, an indoor swim lap pool (i.e. narrow, not too long one), and living room, patio with iron furniture, etc. and oversee St. Kitts in Jones Estate, which is about 15 min. drive to school. The one bedroom apt unit within 7 min. WALK to school, cost U$450 /mo for people that prepay the 4 month in advance. And they can live there forever they want. I wouldn't call this "phenomenal price"

Originally Posted by The Messenger

When I was over on Nevis I saw handout lists of clinicals available to us. Even while here in Belize I have excitedly kept up with the growing number of hospitals available for clinicals. Washington State was “always?on the lists. I was not tremendously excited about Spokane as an option but, if that was one so be it. Now, to my surprise, I find that you say there are no affiliations.

FACTS: I confirmed with my husband who has seen the list of clinical rotation spot; and never he saw sites in Washington state. Why we can be so sure, because we are from B.C. Canada (now, everybody know who I am ) we would be jumping and so happy that if we could do rotation in Washington state which is so close to home. But we always know our rotation sites are mostly in the east side of the US.

This particular person first started in Nevis as he claims then ended up finishing in Belize. I wonder why? Because for a fact that, Nevis campus has better facilities, at least bigger campus, owned not rented. So why the trf?

The first 2 facts are verifiable, the 3rd one, hope you'll trust me

I am stating all facts, and no opinions.

[The Messenger]

How many times (if ever) has a student defended a tuition increase.

I smell something funny here, does anyone else smell it?




Don't shoot me I'm only the messenger........................

[dt]

Hi The Messenger,

Looks like you have 5 warnings which means you will most likely going to get banned. I have pm'ed you my email address. If you do get banned, could you keep me updated via email. Thanks.


dt

[The Messenger]

This forum isn't ready to deal with info of this nature (truth). With truth comes responsibility. Of course if I'm banned I'll have one of the other mistreated, mislead students join the forum. Hopefully you found this info a refreshing change from the usual.





Don't shoot me I'm only the messenger.......can I at least have a blind fold

[pitman]

For this thread, I agree The Messenger should have gotten a warning, and since the 5th, banned.

HOWEVER, have any of his detractors been big enough to solicit a copy of his sources (the disgruntled former students) supposedly emailing him?

If not, has anyone else? dt?

-pitman

[dt]

[stephew]

The messenger was not banned for the topic of his posts. He was banned for repeatedly violating Terms of Service after being warned. Those violations were 1) putting in personal information about others (personal emails; email addresses of others etc) and 2) mulitple postings in multiple fora. He made a merry chase, only partially editing his posts as per moderators and administrator's requests. Hundreds of users here post negative and controversial information as they see fit, but within the Terms of Service that protect the privacy of others and that don't violate our spamming rules. This user had ample warning and chance to comply without losing the content of his posts. And as he discovered and was allowed to do, he could have provided more detailed information to other users via PM. He nevertheless chose to ignore the TOS requests made to him and thus was banned; it appears that having things on his own terms was more important than providing you with the information he found so damning.

[pitman]

Thanks for the explanation, stephew.

dt -- PM'ing you...

-pitman

[SKL]

Originally Posted by The Messenger

How many times (if ever) has a student defended a tuition increase.

I smell something funny here, does anyone else smell it?




Don't shoot me I'm only the messenger........................

Please re-read what I wrote. I don't think I am defending for the tuition increase. I hope it would never increase. You posted such a long mail which contain many accusations. I know some are incorrect, so I pointed it out. Opinions / feelings / experience are varied from person to person. But the facts I posted can't be varied. If I read a document which contains many false info. which I can verify, I will doubt the other facts listed on the same document even I can't verify them. It's just like if a person lies several time, am I going to trust him/her for other thing he/she said?

So, please first build up your credibility by stating only the truth/facts.