Help please!!!

[Doc2bcardiologist]

Hi all,
Can anyone tell me about the residency training in Ireland and how to get into it. I've completed my MBBS and am looking forward to specialising in interventional cardiology. Please guide me on the options that I have in Ireland or any other EU country for that matter.

Thanks in advance!!!

[Miklos]

Hi all,
Can anyone tell me about the residency training in Ireland and how to get into it. I've completed my MBBS and am looking forward to specialising in interventional cardiology. Please guide me on the options that I have in Ireland or any other EU country for that matter.

Thanks in advance!!!

Good luck.

Competition for post-graduate training is very, very tough in Ireland. Many Irish grads end up in the UK instead (which is becoming very competitive as well).

For information on Irish registration see www.medicalcouncil.ie ; for Britain www.gmc-uk.org

As far as other countries go, unless you are fluent in their native language(s) you have no chance of gaining post-graduate training.

[lawrenceloungelizard]

what about if you get your medical degree from Ireland lets say and are a US citizen, fluent in the language of that EU country- do you stand a chance of getting into their residency program then?

[Miklos]

what about if you get your medical degree from Ireland lets say and are a US citizen, fluent in the language of that EU country- do you stand a chance of getting into their residency program then?

That depends on the country in question (very generally speaking, easier in the Northern countries and much more difficult in the Southern ones), because many European countries graduate MDs in excess of post-graduate training spots.

[Chemist_11]

Yes, Northern ireland is more competitive than southern ireland (Eire) due to the fact that Northern ireland is part of the UNITED KINGDOM, and southern is not.
go to:

www.bmjcareers.com

this has reams and reams of posts advertised, but for surgical posts, i know that on average it takes over 300 applications to land a sucessful post.

Good luck.

[Miklos]

Yes, Northern ireland is more competitive than southern ireland (Eire) due to the fact that Northern ireland is part of the UNITED KINGDOM, and southern is not.
go to:

www.bmjcareers.com

this has reams and reams of posts advertised, but for surgical posts, i know that on average it takes over 300 applications to land a sucessful post.

Good luck.

No, that was not my point.

The reason the NI might be more competitive than the Republic of Ireland can probably be simply attributed to the number of positions available.

My point was that Scandinavia (for those with appropriate language skills) and other Northern countries (yes, even the UK) have excess spots (above the number of their own graduates) for post-graduate training. By contrast, I know that my Greek classmates will wait for a number of years before starting specialization in Greece. A number of them will even end up in the UK.

[Chemist_11]

that may not have been your point, but lets face facts, if you are a foreign graduate, the average number of applications in the UK, including N. Ireland is over 300, also for N Ireland work, you have to be awarded temporary registration with the GMC, and for southern ireland, the GMC of ireland, which are different.

So facts are facts, your classmates in greece will have to pass the TOEFL and PLAB 1 and 2, which are not hard in themselvs, but in britain, you may well know that:

ITS NOT WHAT YOU KNOW, ITS WHO!

Britain is not a corrupt country, but i know for a fact that when it comes to universities such as Cambridge and Oxford, manchester and london (s), it isn't always how good you are, its who you know, and how much you are worth.

[Miklos]

that may not have been your point, but lets face facts, if you are a foreign graduate, the average number of applications in the UK, including N. Ireland is over 300, also for N Ireland work, you have to be awarded temporary registration with the GMC, and for southern ireland, the GMC of ireland, which are different.

Please do yourself a favor and look at the BMJ numbers.

You'll find (interestingly) that the numbers for the (admittedly) limited sample of SHO applicants for NI (97) looks far better than the remainder of the UK (219).

See average per advert number in Table 2 at http://www.bmjcareers.com/cgi-bin/se...sn=juniorcomp#

Miklos

[Miklos]

So facts are facts, your classmates in greece will have to pass the TOEFL and PLAB 1 and 2, which are not hard in themselvs, but in britain, you may well know that:

Nope. As they are EU citizens, graduating from a Hungarian school they can exercise the right of freedom of movement and gain FULL REGISTRATION upon graduation. See http://www.gmc-uk.org/register/EEA/eea_qual_in_eea.htm

Please stop posting non-sense.

[Chemist_11]

You are seriously pissing me off now, did you not know that ALL foreign grads have to pass the TOEFL, eaven brits who go to study abroad and return, HAVE TO PASS THE makin loveG TOEFL TEST you damn fool!.