genossa,

yes, it would be interesting to hear from one of the IUHS administrators. I know a couple of current students at IUHS very well and they are definitely those that are in too deep financially to turn back. They are just hoping for the best.

As these students say, the current admissions administrators are the accountant, who is not actually an accountant, and his wife, who was a real estate salesperson until her husband put her into this job without anyone to train her except him who knew nothing about medical schools.
These are the kinds of things that potentially bring a school down. If nothing else, it brings them down to their bottom line thinking.

I would like to have ANYONE of them discussing e-learning and how they are missusing it.

I am staying away from discussing any particulars concerning who does what at that school. It is obvious the school's educational program is being missmanaged. Anything else leads to personal attacks, etc and potential lawsuits left and right.

The case of IUHS is that of what could have been a potentially good idea on the hands of bad business people with a bad business model and it is the norm when medical schools are operated by flawed leaders and not Academics with a good understanding on medical education. You can run a for profit school and have excellent academics and excellent business people behind it.
Cheers,
Max

Hi Max,

thanks for the reminder, but only anything that is said that is not a fact would open itself up to litigation. Credentials of those administrating a medical school is open for public viewing.

I am also guessing that if you tried to discuss the mismanagement of the curriculum, you would in fact be really pushing some of them into a corner.

They originally were using the Australian curriculum for which they paid a fee, but they appeared to have changed everything with each addition of new lecturers. this includes their own students who were/are lecturing.

You will grow old waiting to hear from anyone at that institution so the only thing you might receive is information from students, former students, former employees, former lecturers, etc, etc.

Cheers,
Ming

How about buying out IUHS and reforming it into a viable IVIMEDS institution that it could be? There must be some well recognized medical education and medical academic leaders out there that can bring their reputations and influence to bear on such a venture. The University of Miami ran a 2 year MD program for Ph.D.'s a number of years ago before terminating the program yet these MDs are probably just as good as those that went through the traditional 4 year program. So, why not get reputable people to help. What do you think? Can we get true venture capitalists to fund such an above board venture?
Hey, I know I would do better! Do you think you guys can do better if we collaborate on such a venture?
Food for thought!!
A_G

The idea of discussions like this is pushing them into a corner. And remember, anyone can file a lawsuit in this country for any reason, and not until a judge delcares it without merit, you have to answer it and hire a lawyer and all that just to have a case dismissed, even if it's frivolous. Been there , done that. That is why I will rather stay away from those kind of attacks, it does nothing good for the discussion.

I do know they licensed the University of Sydney PBL model and discarded it. BIG MISTAKE. But at the same time, with what kind of professors they were going to run it? They don't have any worth the tuition. It would have been a disgrace for the licensor (University of Sydney).

Like I said, this place has no leadership and a very bad business plan.

Max

due to the reputation of IUHS, it would be a far, far better idea to start from scratch. i cannot imagine getting any value out of simply purchasing the name of IUHS.

the other issue, as i see it, is that licensing boards are very unlikely to accept new methods of medical education if it is introduced abroad. as good as it may be, it is still likely to be scoffed at if you do it first outside of the US.

an excellent idea.


and

It can be bought for the charter and clear that hurlde right away, then overhaul it. Totally doable. Get a good PR person to re-introduce it to the different medical boards.

You do bring out a very worthy point. The name IUHS should be dropped from the lexicon of medical schools for our newly established institution. Maybe we should establish a medical school with IVIMEDS standards within a state or province that is in dire need of physicians and ask for LCME or CACMS accreditation. Once we receive accreditation, it would be very hard to reject a school that uses e-learning and other instructional technology to provide basic sciences medical edcuation and medical professional skills. We could try Nunavat, Northwest Territories or Yukon for our new medical school or how about Alaska or Montana and the call of the wild or the white earth?
Cheers, A_G

i find it interesting that the OP disappeared after his reference to a successful grad turned out to be a transfer student.

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