He can get his MD, if he goes through medical school. How does one transition from being an oral surgeon to being an otolaryngologist just like that? I'm not sure i disagree with some credits being accepted between med schools and dental schools. I'm sure many of the courses are quite similar. By the same token, many are very dissimilar as well. G

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If he can get into a residency he can do it like any oral surgeon would who did their originally oral surgery trianing in a program that doesn't give md degrees. The oral surgery people just had a conference where apparently an attorney gave a talk on the liability issues of a dentist citing an offshore MD that they have which isn't able to be licensed; ask your risk management officer at your local hospital about if they would allow the DDS/MD privileges in their hospital like they are an MD. the answer is no.

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george, think of it the oppose way....would people want you to practice oral surgery if you went to an offshore dental school for 8-12 weeks and studied via the internet, and 'mentors' in the US?

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uh, heck no.

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Good points. Clearly the Dentist would need to finish the appropriate residency and pass his boards, and be in a state or country that accepted his degree before being an otolaryngologist. Without doing that the degree is simply academic, which may be useful for him in other non clinical ways such as research or business. Which is why many people now get a JD without passing the bar. Even the Kaplan affiliated law school now has an Executive JD for people who want the degree and associated Knowledge, but do not want to pass the bar or practice. I do understand from your previous posts that the Dentists can not use the MD to mislead or generate clinical income from patients, if they are not licensed as an MD in that state. Remember the medical degree in most countries is an undergraduate degree, and when many of them finish and want to apply to the US for graduate school, they call themselves MD/PhDs without ever doing residencies or licenses. They join faculties in every medical school in the USA and Canada in basic science departments or as researchers in clinical departments. Most in fact call their MBBS or MBBCh degree (if that is waht they got) an MD since they argue it is the american equivalent. That one I question but it is common practice in the US, and most American medical school deans have not questioned their faculty on doing this. I would still argue that a person can get an MD as an academic degree without ever being licensed and get a very high paying job, as long as they focus on being a scholar in something or/and get an additional graduate degree.

How can you be a scholar when your degree is through an accelerated correspondence course without evidence that prior coursework is comparable?

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Good question. Publishing or doing a significant thesis is what makes one a recognized scholar. Clearly, that is what state boards such as california look for in approving medical school faculty. At least as I interpret their St. Mathews evaluation. Medical School faculty need to publish. No one ever calls up the school and asks if someone is doing this research or has has any scholarly ideas. Presentations at Professional meetings and publishing is what it is about. The best thing is for a student who has a creative side and does not just want to memorize information is to work with a clinical or research professor during their rotations, and/or for the summer after their second year (if their schedule permits). If they want to be a scholar it doesn't matter to me if they learn their background information on the internet or elsewhere. The british PhD is all about self study. Unlike the American PhD, the british system and most european schools do not have formal coursework, but examine the PhD thesis as a contribution to science. In fact many well recognized Royal Charter british and Australian Universities have complete DL PhD programs. In fact some, including University Technology Sydney, and University of Glamorgan in Wales, and many others now will allow one to be examined for the PhD by prior publications in their field of study. In answer to your question, yes, in the british european system and in some accredited US universities it is possible to be a scholar by studying via the internet. In Science it doesn't matter to most of us where someone got their degree or what degree they have, it matters what contribution to science they are making, and how they are shaping a specific field of study. What if someone got their degree from IUHS and later worked in an inner city hospital and discovered a new type of infection, or a potential treatment using an existing drug off label. He/She diligently researched the cases and published this in a journal which eventually had a significant effect on our public health or created a new field of endeavour. Would it matter if he/she was a Johns Hopkins grad publishing a paper in NEJM. It is the impact of the work and the creativity of the person that is important. Yes I know most students go on this forum because they want to be a practicing physican back in the States. And yes many of you will tell them to go to an American School, or to one of the top Carribean schools and to stay away from the lesser offshore schools. But what is important in our Society is that if these young people have the interest to study health care in this century and the energy to continue doing it in a "lesser" format because of their circumstance (maybe they don't have the college grades, the funds, maybe they have a family and children, maybe they just haven't had good luck, maybe they have an illness themselves or in their family that doesn't allow for travel), then we should embrace that. For at some point whether they are licensed in California or Ethiopia, or just working in healthcare as as a non clinician, for the most part, except for a few petty and malicious people, they will somehow somewhere provide a positive influence in their local community and be a role model for many others. In the long run, it isn't about getting a MD, getting licensed and making money. It is about having an educated society and the more "doctors" the better no matter where they go and what they do.

I was under the impression that AUA was the only school in Antigua getting a NY site visit in January...

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How many UHSA students are on the island right now? Most AUA students are under the impression that your school is an internet operation. I've been here almost 12 months now and I have never seen a student of your school.

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It would be neat to know: "what is the situation @ UHSA".........sans all of the daily intake of "forum rhetoric."