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beating a dead horse-just wann say good luck to those of you doing the distance learning on actually getting a full unrestriced license when you are likely limiting your work area by 48 states or so and those that have the loophole in there may not be around for long. i did the residency permit last year..big deal two forms. i just started the full licensure process for a state and the things they check and the things they request, the things they look for i just goltta say good luck is all i can muster up.

and why come on here and "put down another school" its not putting down its educating and letting new students know that as of today going anywhere but traditional med schools will severely cripple their future employabiolity, marketability, ability to work where they want, and possibly outright prevent them from ever working as a doctor..call it "putting down" if you wish but it really isn't.

for the ER NP-i think distance learning is the wave of the future but the way its set up through that school is entertaining,...you have your buddy as a mentor, how do you take exams? who grades them? in the end it doesn't matter because we all take the usmle exams..who knows it may work out for you just be real weary of applying for a license because all these burocrats will tell you that its case by case, you can petition to have your case looked at and whatever they want but you will be denied in the majority of states you apply for a full unrestriced license(not resident permit) and once you are denied by one state you have to list that on each and every application you file

so best advice is to look for one of the 2 or 3 states that has a fully licensed doc from this place and pray the board doesn't look into it or some "consumer" because that is what we call patients now, doesn't file a complaint saying that this doc went to an internet medical school offshore because that is all it will take. until distance learning is the standtrd and the norm in the states it makes no sense to gamble on it from an offshore school right now..brown, stanford etc can do whatever they please, they are inder the unbrella of the LCME..we are under a banana leaf with people just waiting to jump on our education the last thing caribbean "education" needs are "innovative" curricula with learn as you earn programs to further mock and dilute the perception of us

i know it sounds harsh but please download or request applications for full licensure from the states and see the stuff they actually ask for....not the politically correct response you get giving hope when there rarely some

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I don't think any school was really fully internet based, most offer a hybrid of actual on campus classes, together with online PBL cases, and mandatory hospital attendance.
The ones that offered full or complete online, lost their WHO status, for example St. Lukes U.
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AUCMD2006's post is correct. If you take the time and download application forms for various states, it is sometimes clearly written ANY OR ALL parts of the educations done online might require extra forms, explanations, or just plain will not be accepted. Sometimes it will just say only "traditional" classess will be accepted (classroom). All you have to do is google "(State) medical board" and click on their New Applicant Forms. Rules can always change, but it usually will not be in favor of something seen as a short-cut. Remember, licensing board are there to protect the public, not students. Can you actually post any state, hospital, or clinic website links with fully licensed graduates from an online school?
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Well, at UHSA, we had our classes on campus, but while doing rotations at ACGME hospitals, we had PBL cases online.
I think it was a great idea, as we often learned while doing rotations, and completed cases, that matched our rotation.
Overall the program was great, as I passed all steps on first attempt.
and obtained residency.
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Well, I can. I personally know one that got licensed in Illinois from IUHS,she did her basics online, another one in Georgia and one, this is peculiar, completed his basics at IUHS, online, transferred to St. Christopher College, (yes the same one with the charter issue in Senegal) completed residency, was chief resident and as recently as April 21 got licensed in Florida, yes Florida. So I would never venture to assume that because I do not know it happened that in fact it never happened.




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AUCMD2006's post is correct. If you take the time and download application forms for various states, it is sometimes clearly written ANY OR ALL parts of the educations done online might require extra forms, explanations, or just plain will not be accepted. Sometimes it will just say only "traditional" classess will be accepted (classroom). All you have to do is google "(State) medical board" and click on their New Applicant Forms. Rules can always change, but it usually will not be in favor of something seen as a short-cut. Remember, licensing board are there to protect the public, not students. Can you actually post any state, hospital, or clinic website links with fully licensed graduates from an online school?
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PBL during clinicals might be a better idea, our "cases studies" during basic science did not help me for Step one.

The above post is right, anything is possible, it's just the chances of it happening to consider.
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You are entitiled to your own narrow views and so called expert interpretations of state medical board laws. Yes, there are states that will not license graduates from IUHS or OUM like CA, IN, OR and those that rely on the CA approved list. This applies to all apart from the so called top 4 Carib schools.

There are more than 35 states that will license IUHS and OUM graduates. I know because I checked with all 50 state medical boards personally with very specific questions about online basic sciences.

Before posting, check with all 50 states rather than misleading people who read these forums. This mode of education is here to stay, like it or not. Eventually many US and other universities around the world will slowly be forced to look into this option due to budgetary constraints and staff shortages.

Professors these days would rather spend their time in research rather than teaching people like you and me in the class. The main reason most of them come to the classroom to teach is because it is in their contract, they are just forced to teach and very few are there out of passion for teaching. There are great many benefits for them in this type of education including cutting costs for the university and ultimately maybe to the student. Like it or not, it is here to stay.

Besides, US is not the only place in the world to live and the way it is looking today, it might lose whatever wealth its got left very fast. You may then see migration out of the US rather than to the US as it has often been happening in the past century. We are in 9 Trillion dollars debt!! I cannot even fathom a trillion dollars...just mind bogling amount of debt, which by the way people like you and I will be paying off in the future.

So those who are now paying huge amounts of tuition to SGU, etc...good luck in paying it off especially when you are bound to see increasing costs for everything else in the US while the insurance companies start paying doctors less and less. I wonder if medicine will even remain a financially viable education option in the distant future in the US especially when there are so many other ways to earn more than doctors with less debt and stress!

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beating a dead horse-just wann say good luck to those of you doing the distance learning on actually getting a full unrestriced license when you are likely limiting your work area by 48 states or so and those that have the loophole in there may not be around for long. i did the residency permit last year..big deal two forms. i just started the full licensure process for a state and the things they check and the things they request, the things they look for i just goltta say good luck is all i can muster up.

and why come on here and "put down another school" its not putting down its educating and letting new students know that as of today going anywhere but traditional med schools will severely cripple their future employabiolity, marketability, ability to work where they want, and possibly outright prevent them from ever working as a doctor..call it "putting down" if you wish but it really isn't.

for the ER NP-i think distance learning is the wave of the future but the way its set up through that school is entertaining,...you have your buddy as a mentor, how do you take exams? who grades them? in the end it doesn't matter because we all take the usmle exams..who knows it may work out for you just be real weary of applying for a license because all these burocrats will tell you that its case by case, you can petition to have your case looked at and whatever they want but you will be denied in the majority of states you apply for a full unrestriced license(not resident permit) and once you are denied by one state you have to list that on each and every application you file

so best advice is to look for one of the 2 or 3 states that has a fully licensed doc from this place and pray the board doesn't look into it or some "consumer" because that is what we call patients now, doesn't file a complaint saying that this doc went to an internet medical school offshore because that is all it will take. until distance learning is the standtrd and the norm in the states it makes no sense to gamble on it from an offshore school right now..brown, stanford etc can do whatever they please, they are inder the unbrella of the LCME..we are under a banana leaf with people just waiting to jump on our education the last thing caribbean "education" needs are "innovative" curricula with learn as you earn programs to further mock and dilute the perception of us

i know it sounds harsh but please download or request applications for full licensure from the states and see the stuff they actually ask for....not the politically correct response you get giving hope when there rarely some

good luck

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Again, why do you post without looking and mislead people. If you search, like you mention in your post, you will find that there are people who are already practicing in many states and graduated from IUHS.

If you check the OUM website, you shall see that their first 2 graduates got into FP and IM residencies in FL and IL. You shall also see if you search that IUHS graduates are on the staff of residency programs. I personally found one in FP residency staff list. Do not mislead people with your own narrow views and interpretations without any hard research.

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AUCMD2006's post is correct. If you take the time and download application forms for various states, it is sometimes clearly written ANY OR ALL parts of the educations done online might require extra forms, explanations, or just plain will not be accepted. Sometimes it will just say only "traditional" classess will be accepted (classroom). All you have to do is google "(State) medical board" and click on their New Applicant Forms. Rules can always change, but it usually will not be in favor of something seen as a short-cut. Remember, licensing board are there to protect the public, not students. Can you actually post any state, hospital, or clinic website links with fully licensed graduates from an online school?
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Well, I can. I personally know one that got licensed in Illinois from IUHS,she did her basics online, another one in Georgia and one, this is peculiar, completed his basics at IUHS, online, transferred to St. Christopher College, (yes the same one with the charter issue in Senegal) completed residency, was chief resident and as recently as April 21 got licensed in Florida, yes Florida. So I would never venture to assume that because I do not know it happened that in fact it never happened.
G Max,

Thank you for the information. Do you believe IUHS has substantially improved its overall program since you were there?

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G Max,

Thank you for the information. Do you believe IUHS has substantially improved its overall program since you were there?
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