Thread: Are there actual lectures at IUHS? or all Internet?

Can some one tell me if there are actual courses being taught at the school or is it all done on the internet? Are there any Docs out there from this school?

De Facto & De Jure

I. De Facto, in this edge and time: Most of universities who are the technologically dynamic, including Ivy League universities in the States, California U inclusive or Russell Group in UK and more. The McMaster, Toronto U, McGill, in Canada and others, deliver academic information using modern teaching technologies. Period. And the professors are accessible even more than the ones on campus. On campus profs are often surrounded by some attention seeking student....Or Auditoriums full of some noisy students sitting in the back, talking all the time through out lectures. With IT/BB system, such students stand no chance of disrupting the good students with good attention span. Information technology is brilliant and is here to stay. Talkies stand no chance with their disruptive behaviour and they have a good reason to cry to be on campus. Or some profit maximizing entity to discourage methods of education that makes it not to maximize profit. The fact is, Telecasting lectures, teleconferencing/forum discussions is what makes modernity. Is what is creating us. Stop day dreaming thing 1500 AD classrooms will continue. That is gone! This is information edge. End of story. Take it or leave it. Pre-Clinical phase of MD programmes can be delivered in any way. It is DUMB and utter lie for anyone to say sitting in class on campus makes a good physician. There was a Nazi man who believed a lie frequently repeated gains ground. But I say to everyone, "a lie frequently repeated makes one lose credibility and respect from others".

II. De Jure, it is not illegal to teach using IT or deliver such information using such teaching modes. So what rubbish would anyone cherish to discourage it?

Imagine a surgeon conducting a robotic surgical procedure from a distance, what is so terrible about learning from a distance performed by an accredited/recognized institution? Be it Harvard, MIT or IUHS. It is not a matter of internet education as if they sit and google all day long. The curriculums are designed, structured and controlled by universities that deliver them. What difference does it make? As a matter of fact, students from IUHS or MIT can access same lectures. I am talking from experience. In other words, Professor Drennan at MIT and others are broadcasting to everyone in the Caribbean and beyond the world. Even lecture from California U. Tah tah! These are the advantages of IT/BB systems. One has no special advantage by being at any university when it come to knowledge acquisition.

However, by the end of the day, we all meet in the corridors of hospitals with same basic scientific grounding. So! what ** gives anyone solace?
Who cares what California thinks and says. It is entitled to its opinion. We are all entitled to our opinions and prejudices. But prejudice, by nature lacks intellectual analysis!!

There are billions of people on earth waiting have a physician. No time for simpleton's pick! Pre-Clinical Phase is NOT Clinical phase! There is a clinical phase to every MD training. We end up in hospitals, all of us, to suture real people, lumber puncture real people and more!

There are many Medical schools in less developed countries that do not even have access to enough books let alone IT/BB. Yet producing brilliant doctors. Someone sitting is a porch campus comes out as a lousy doctor. How do you explain this? These student if they were at any of the schools here with IT/BB capability/accessibility would love it. If these students sow what I have on my MacBookPro (more than 1000 eboks in Medicine and clinical research) they would go "WOW!" They would see why I don't have to even go to the library. My library has some of latest five star editions from Basic Sciences, EBM/Clinical Research to Clinical Medicine. Not eve your school library provided such quality library.

So its time to stop lying frequently hoping lies will gain ground about how we disseminated Pre-Clinical training to physicians!

interesting.....but, medicine is MUCH different than law
I hope the online program gets shut down, online Medical schools should really be banned.....

Originally Posted by Doc2B2007

Currently California is the only state who has stated a stance against IUHS and the majority of states are open to licensure for IUHS graduates! Note California's stance was against online education yet they are the only ones who allow Lawyers to use this mode of education! If you really want to know about IUHS then you should go directly to them and ask to attend one of their conferences to meet students currently enrolled. In reply to question of lectures. The lectures are all live streaming video from campus or instructors from other US Medical educational systems. The student can see both the instuctor live with the power points used for the lecture and they also have access through a chat window to ask the instructor questions during lectures and the Instructor answers them verbally through the live streaming video feed. These are not pod casts. I get more questions answered here than I ever got in crowded premed lectures!

Anyone who did not just sit in class memorize and regurgitate theories without understanding why they were developed or what they can & what the cannot explain, Will understand the philosophy of medicine and the real nature of medicine. Such that they will agree that with modern technology, the only part of medicine that may not be taught from a distance are clinical sciences or the application of the basic sciences in clinical practice...there is need to be in hospital/clinic/public health environment in order to apply the principles according.

Those that have acquired multiple qualifications of formal education absolutely have a better understanding of the philosophy of education in whatever field they studied...unfortunately some will never get it...it will always be a mystery. Stack in history...live in history....die in history.... and never lived in the present...So they wish the present never existed...Dreams that will never come true...as life continues....

Magen

online grad accredited, practising almost 10 years and is now director Doctor's island education rejected by some states

This is not the same school, and from the article he didn't do his courses online, these courses were transfer credits, completely different situation now, as you can't get transfer credits from any non MD program.
At least his online component was a review of his classes taught at pre-MD program.....HOWEVER, the situation now is totally different...

never said it was the same school. was just showing an example of an online grad, getting residence and a license. article clearly says he did his coursework online

see quote from article below
"At least two states have serious questions about the quality of the education Neyman received at the University of Health Sciences of Antigua, in the West Indies, partially because the majority of his coursework was completed over the Internet."

I am not sure why "internet" learning keeps getting bashed. Do you not resource the internet thousands of times a week and during your study sessions to access information?

What is the difference between sitting in a classroom on an island vs sitting in the comfort of your own home or local library to hear the same lecture? The content is the same either way. With technical advances soaring, distributed learning is the way of the future - this is how your children and grandchildren will learn going forward. Like it or not, I think it is here to stay. IUHS has an innovative learning model that works for motivated and determined students. Unlike most other Caribbean schools, the professors at IUHS are ALL currently employed professors in American medical schools and award-winning Kaplan instructors. The only difference is that you attend lectures on a screen instead of in a classroom. Students are held to the same standards as US students. Lectures are live and interactive 5 days a week. 4-5 lectures per day. The broadcasts are in a teleconference format using "BlackBoard" software. Students ask questions during lectures and professors interact with students in real-time. It's like sitting in the front row of the classroom. Exams are at the end of each block and they have the same requirement at the end of the pre-clinical years... Step 1.

Keep an open mind. IUHS may not be perfect, but it is a learning model that will continue to improve and is a pretty clear window into our future.

the difference is the fact that the state medical boards have very clearly stated that they wont license anyone whom has completed any portion of his/her basic sciences online.......BIG DIFFERENCE

There are many states that will issue licenses to graduates of IUHS. One just needs to do the research before starting. If you're looking for California and many western states, IUHS is not for you.

Is there a list of alumnus that has matched into residency? Just curious. Even if states haven't forbidden online med schools, are there PD willing to take in people?