The school is based out of Samoa and used the medical school curriculum from the University of melbourne. An entrepreneurial physician bought the curriculum and course content from the University of Melbourne and immediately set up a medical education computer company to translate the course contents onto a learning management system. He then had to find a friendly place to set up his medical school. Obviously the medical school needed accreditation and the Samoan government gave him legitimacy. How is Oceania better than IUHS?
The curriculum is based on the University of Melbourne Medical School program, which has been accredited in Australia. However this does NOT mean that the Oceania University of Medicine program is accredited by the Australian authorities. Thus legitimacy is questionable.
There is a residential pre-med preparatory program held at one of two colleges to ensure all students are up to snuff and start the program on equal footing. This is a good way to ensure that students are ready for the progam and have an appropriate level of preparatory education.
Problems: There is no residential component to ensure students have proper training in the clinical skills and are on the "same page". Also, having clinical or physician preceptors does NOT ensure that students are receiving the appropriate and complete clinical skill training required for clerkships.
There are also no procedures in place to ensure proper testing or examing of students at regular intervals, i.e. the end of block exams. There should be a contract with a company like Prometric to ensure exams are administered and graded independently in an environment that is supervised to not allow cheating or corruption of the exam. This increases the validity and respectability of the examination process.
Food for thought!
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Have you guys ever imagined the "online" student having several of his friends or wive(s) helping him complete his onlilne work? Who can stop that, am I right?

Then, he goes to clinicals, has no confidence ( I sure as heck wouldn't) gained by being in a "real" medical school, no clinical advisor to help him to navigate and know how to behave himself in his clerkships, little or no support from fellow students, no wonder he or she fails clinicals.

Just one DC not taking the online way, after having thoroughly investigated it. I know this is abotu IUHS, which I actually know nothing about. But UHSA says they have REAL people their taking traditional courses, has anyone ever witnessed that?

This post started with DRJJ1 saying he knew one Resident from IUHS. One? That's kinda scarey. There's a reason most people dont' go that route, it's common sense. I have talked with grads from online programs, and they get no help from teh school to pass USMLE, don't get prepped in testing during basic sciences with USMLE like testing, and have a real rough time, 98% don't have the tenacity to do it.

It is really weird, when you see it in context, to have a thread abotu the one known resident from IUHS.

WHY TORTURE YOURSELF IN THIS WAY, TO MAYBE GET A LICENCE?

Again, after all my investigation, and the 40 months and money I am going to put into it (Which by the way UHSA costs about the same as the lower big 4), I will not risk NOT GETTING LICENCED, as Genossa Max has said.

Anyone wanting to know more should search Genossa Max and Picard and rrod posts, they are good people who have posted a lot of good knowledge about all this.

SORRY i am a little off topic. I am not bashing any school or person either, it just seems like needless self torture.

Hope it helps.

Ps. These people who say "they know..such and such about..so and so" always come across to me as School Owners or School Administrators.
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Oh Lord, I hope this helps someone.

I just found the following link. Anyone from US who is considering OUM MUST look at it and then MUST contact state boards themselves either via email or phone and get first-hand information from the state boards themselves regarding online component in medical education and whether they will give license to someone whose MD program included online basic science curriculum. OUM for some reason is unable to provide information regarding states which would give license to OUM grads.

It is important to be aware that being able to take USMLE exams and then doing residency in the US does NOT mean you will get licensed to practice medicine in the states!! Everyone needs to understand this clearly before considering OUM. It appears to be a great curriculum and PBL sounds very good for self-motivated people. But IMO anyone who wants to practice medicine in US MUST contact all state boards themselves and confirm whether they will be able to practice medicine after residency if their MD is from OUM that has online basic science curriculum. Good luck and please post your responses from state boards so that it will be useful to others.

If you dont already know, state of California is VERY opposed to OUM or any other MD program with any online component so OUM grads will never be able to get licensed in CA. And if CA does not approve then there are other states that simply follow CA rules and so you wont be able to get licensed in those states either. These include OR, NM, GA,WA, etc

Make sure you ask the states specifically about online component and licensing rules of the state in regards to online component because many states may simply say that they will approve as long as its ECFMG certified BUT when you actually apply, they might object because there is online component in your MD degree. So everyone should contact individual states themselves and be VERY CLEAR on ALL the DETAILS and discuss EVERYTHING about the OUM curriculum in detail with the medical board.

oops i dont have enough posts so its not allowing me to post links here but for those who want to explore...the post is on the valueMD website under state licensing requirements, online classes and state licensure posted by neilc.

Nice update, if you check this website and threads you will notice we have been saying the same since 2003 and before that since 2000 under the Network 54. That has not deterred people from attending the school and there are in fact a few that have obtained licenses in what IUHS or OUM (???) call "flexible" states. I am not against distance learning, but are not 100% for it either. It has to be done responsibly and with a degree of accountability. Don't get me wrong but the way some of these schools use it is sort of ???? if you know what I mean. That per se does not make the residents incompetent,otherwise we would have found out by now. And if few have obtained licenses, good for them, their states must have seen something we don't see, something neither you or myself are in a position to judge. About Neilc, well, he was banned permanently for having multiple accounts, go figure.

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Do you know what states are considered "flexible"??

Plz post if you have info about states that will accept grads from those schools for licensure!?

As far as I know, there are no states in the US that will accept them. However, the only states I dont know about are WY, Montana, ID, Hawaii, Virgin Islands...maybe these are the only states where they can practice?

I just enjoy postings like yours that say "there are no states in the US that will accept them" . I personally know 3 of them, licensed grads, but since I just know them decided to drop a line, oh and no , they are not in the states you mentioned, still cold. However I take notice of your comment...."as far as I know" an assumption right away. Aren't you the same person who got banned a few days ago (lovebug) and just opened a new account? Just curious.

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Just wanted to give a some positive light to IUHS, I am a 1st year student, I have a masters degress, bachelors degree, and even an associates. but i recieved no "advanced standing" I started in block 1 just like everyone else. I know there is alot of concern about licensing in the US, I have found 5 states who are not currently excepting IUHS degrees, hopefully that will change with more graduates. I have talked with genossa maximillian via email, before I started the program, gm was straight forward about, so I knew the risks of some states not accepting IUHS, but most due. As for the televideo conferancing portion of the distant learning process, as I understand it quite a few US medical school have some of their lectures online, where students can review and montior the lectures that way. I will agree that the televideo aspect will make some portions of school challenging, especially gross anatomy, IUHS is using netters anatomy which is an excellent resource, but still lacking versus the human cadaveor. fortunately I can attend autopsies and cadaver labs at my hospital and local university. but the lectures are intense, reviewing much of the same information as the US medcial schools, right now we are enduring micro, immunology, anatomy, pharmacology and etc. People really shouldn't judge so quickly, I have been working in healthcare for 17 years now and still am amazed at some of the attitudes of superiority by some people. IMG's take the same exams as the US schools, which is what is required of any MD. I have know IMG's who were very brilliant and US MD's who I can't believe have a license and vice versa as well.
So don't be quick to judge, methods of learning have evolved. Guess I will see as my education continues.

hi dude,

u r really brave to have enrolled in IUHS, given that der is so much negativity about IUHS. Are you in their distance learning or on-campus program.

Do you know if FL, AZ and TX will grant their DLP graduates a licensed after residency? Any help much appreciated. Thanks.

Texas will not at this point, feel free to read the 30 forums required for a school not on the approved list that will have to be filled out with all requirements met, specifically Form J and Forum Z1-Z7.
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