Good reply Max. Here's another news link to why distant learning technology is playing an active role in medicine:

Listen to the Doctor . . . on Your iPod




Tuesday, August 22, 2006; Page HE02

Over the past year, health providers, medical journals, government agencies and a bewildering number of self-proclaimed health experts have begun to offer health news and information via audio and video podcasts. These prerecorded segments are downloaded from the Internet and played on a computer or other device. A variety of software allows you to subscribe -- often for free -- to podcasts and receive automatic updates. Catch up on, say, the latest Parkinson's disease research while at your desk or the dangers of heat stroke during your morning run.


Listen to the Doctor . . . on Your iPod

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I know who this Chiropractor who got his MD from Antigua is and where he is practicing. I have talked to the clinics where he practiced. Got residency in Waterloo, IA in family practice and now is practicing in Iowa. It can happen and often happens to the people who believe it can. There are ways to get your MD degree and that doesn't make you a bad on or good one. I have seen the smartest people not make it in practice.... and that's what it's all about isn't it? Taking care of patients....NOT where you came from!

Side note: The patients loved this doctor with the on-line education

I know who this Chiropractor who got his MD from Antigua is and where he is practicing. I have talked to the clinics where he practiced. Got residency in Waterloo, IA in family practice and now is practicing in Iowa. It can happen and often happens to the people who believe it can. There are ways to get your MD degree and that doesn't make you a bad one or good one. I have seen the smartest people not make it in practice.... and that's what it's all about isn't it? Taking care of patients....NOT where you came from!

Side note: The patients loved this doctor with the on-line education

Did this doc to pre-clinical sciences online?

Further to this.... I am glad this worked out for this chiropractor, but I think the focus of this forum is IUHS.

Having seen a "traditional" medical school and knowing all of the activities undertaken in labs, etc. I personally don't believe that on-line education offers as thorough of an education as in-class, but who knows what the future will hold? I can tell you, though, that the way IUHS is teaching, the students at this school are not receiving a satisfactory medical education.

We all read about doctors who are negligent, etc. and I fear that IUHS may be producing some similar doctors. I was told a story by one of the admin people there that they had a vet doing on-line education. When he went on to clinicals, complaints were received because he couldn't do proper doctor-patient interviews (he was used to animals, ha ha). This does provide the point though that these students are not receiving needed skills.

Carmen

Carmen as much as I would like to agree with you, you do not expect any reasonable person to assume that because one inept student it means that the entire program does not work. Your ending statement , pardon my bluntness, is totally ignorant. "This does provide the point though that these students are not receiving needed skills. " No, it does not prove that, it only proves this student was incompetent. How about the students that are in residency or the rest of the students in clinicals? Do you have that supporting data?

Can you provide more testimony from your insiders of more cases of students unable to perform their duties in clinicals?

Just curious, such a bold statement woke up my curiosity.

Yes, there are several of the IUHS students having problems in clinicals. I don't currently have any numbers, but think I could obtain the information. This is not because they aren't intelligent people, but due to lacking in some fundimental issues. The vet issue is one of and sadly this is true for several students. It is not the vet's fault, but that of the school for not 1) ever meeting the student and 2) not identifying any academic or scholarly deficiencies, 3) and not even addressing these issues. A doctor must be able to communicate effectively with his or her patients.

There is a long list of medical issues not addressed by IUHS: history taking, doctor-patient relations, cultural and gender issues, basic clinical skills, etc. Some students have come from a chiropractic, osteopathic, nursing, etc. background and have their own experience to help them in this area, but some students do not. Most of the students who are having problems are not included in these professions and need help. So far, many students have failed the USMLE part I and have not even had the opportunity to do a clinical. If a student fails this particular exam more than 3 times, there appears to be a problem with their education. I also feel it is unfair for IUHS to tell potential students that they can work full-time and study medicine. There are always some who can manage this, but I certainly wouldn't be one!

My point is that it is not fair to these students who are paying a great deal of money to earn a M.D. Certainly some can make it in this environment, but not all.

Don't mean to sound ignorant - I am speaking the truth.

Carmen

again,,the person got everything transferred but 3 courses,,,pharm, diag, and path I think it was done at uhsa,,in paid resid now,,

I don't doubt you are speaking the truth, it is the way you presented your ending statement what intrigues me. We know the school is totally mismanaged and there is lack of supervision left and right, but on the same token there are some students doing well, these students may be the minority but it is something that has to be looked at more closely, not superficially.

That people chhose to spend their money with IUHS, is their choice, their responsibility, their money. They are doing it on free will, not at gunpoint. Maybe to cut corners, maybe not. We have to live with that. If at the end it results that they realize it was a waste of time and money, hey, they were told, at least in these forums.

In the end, it is more a personal choice than anything else.

Max

You are right Max. My hope has always been that those who are thinking of entering IUHS might change their mind when they see what other's experience has been.

Do your or anyone else know if IUHS is the only internet school? I went to the UHSA website, but couldn't determine if they offered on-line learning. There was a school in Australia offering on-line education, but if my memory serves me right, there was some type of problem.

Please let me know if anyone knows of other on-line schools. If there is, perhaps we can see how their students have fared in the licensing issue.