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Old 09-07-2006, 11:24 AM
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But This Person Took The Online 3 Courses And Rest Was Transfer Credit Then Clinical Then Resid Now..how Do I Know? I Know The Person Personally.
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:31 PM
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Personally, I don't see anything wrong with online basic science education. Why? My mom is a nurse, and do you know how docs "see" patients these days? On the phone!! My mom examines a patient and reports to the doc by the Internet, the sucker then sends a diagnosis through email. How does he diagnose? From his PDA for cryin out loud. And guess what? Some hospitals email X rays to docs in India who read it from there and reply through email. And then boards tell us that online education is bad. This is pathetic.
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I am confused about the "online 3 courses". At IUHS, you must take a full 40 weeks of pre-clinical education on-line or on island. Did he take the blocks? Please ask your friend to write us a message. If IUHS was so great for him or her, I'm sure lots of us would want to hear about it.

This "friend" issue doesn't make sense. Why would you come to this forum to discuss a friend instead of this person?

Once again, I have spoken to many from IUHS and there has only been a few grads so far. I know of 3 that are in a residency and perhaps he or she wasn't identified as a chiropractor?

I would be happy to identify myself from a p.m. if your friend is willing. This argument is not pertaining to IUHS, but if this person indeed did graduate and obtain an residency.

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DRJJ1 himself said that "DrJohn got it right"- which I presume means getting it right about the chiro. going to UHSA, not IUHS.
By the way, Carmen, how long has IUHS been in business? I'm surprised that there are only a few grads. so far.
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Personally, I don't see anything wrong with online basic science education. Why? My mom is a nurse, and do you know how docs "see" patients these days? On the phone!! My mom examines a patient and reports to the doc by the Internet, the sucker then sends a diagnosis through email. How does he diagnose? From his PDA for cryin out loud. And guess what? Some hospitals email X rays to docs in India who read it from there and reply through email. And then boards tell us that online education is bad. This is pathetic.
This is because there is a HUGE difference between technology like teleradiology and telepathology (of which you mentioned in your post) and distance learning through correspondance schools via the internet (search for it as it's been discussed ad nauseum on VMD).

And for your mom's employer who is "diagnosing" patients he's not physically seeing and examining...I wonder how he's doing the billing and who's getting paid for techinical/professional component?
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I don't see much of a difference. If a radiologist in India/China is examining US patient XRays through the Internet, why can't a basic science student learn off the Internet? At most schools basic sciences are nothing but word docs and ppt which the professor reads in front of the class - which is half asleep. And whats more? To become a radiologist you need 10 years (4 for MD + 6 residency) of training. So basically you're spending 2 out of 10 years online ~ 20% of your overall training is online. Then 100% of your career is online. So, I don't see anything wrong with online stuff - even though its banned in most states. What do you say?

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This is because there is a HUGE difference between technology like teleradiology and telepathology (of which you mentioned in your post) and distance learning through correspondance schools via the internet (search for it as it's been discussed ad nauseum on VMD).

And for your mom's employer who is "diagnosing" patients he's not physically seeing and examining...I wonder how he's doing the billing and who's getting paid for techinical/professional component?
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Ok Lets Stop Here

LETS stop here im not getting into this any further,,no names got it,,,thanks for your understanding,,why? cause the person doesn t need to bothered with emails and calls,,,carry on
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I don't see much of a difference. If a radiologist in India/China is examining US patient XRays through the Internet, why can't a basic science student learn off the Internet? At most schools basic sciences are nothing but word docs and ppt which the professor reads in front of the class - which is half asleep. And whats more? To become a radiologist you need 10 years (4 for MD + 6 residency) of training. So basically you're spending 2 out of 10 years online ~ 20% of your overall training is online. Then 100% of your career is online. So, I don't see anything wrong with online stuff - even though its banned in most states. What do you say?

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State medical licensing boards unfortunately do not see things quite your way. It's not a matter of right or wrong. There's the issue of charter and the ability (or lack thereof) to gain an unrestricted license to practice medicine. You don't have to take my word for it.
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But you have a point. If doing medical school becomes as easy as logging into a computer every day from you bedroom in your pyjamas, every Tom **** and Harry would become docs - just as every Tom **** and Harry became engineers (and I was forced to lose my engineering career to someone in Taiwan). Now thats a frightening situation. The US boards should really tighten their grip on foreign docs but thats just my opinion.
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I disagree...

...to the extent that you seem to forget that you still have to pass board tests ,complete clinicals and do residency before even dreaming of becomming a full fledge physician. So, given the fact that a person can complete this rigurous training (clinicals and residency, after passing the boards) I don't see the big issue. After you have passed residency and all the boards you are proving to have attained certain level of proficiency regardless on how you did your basic sciences equally compared to those who atended basic sciences the traditional way. I don't see how you can prove me wrong on this side of the argument.

Just to clarify, I am not endorsing IUHS nor UHSA or their business practices in no means, explicit or implicit. OK?

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