I am in Toronto.
You have to pass lengthy 3-4 examination to get a hard job residency in Canada then you qualify for a diploma in pediatrics or cardiology.
While in Canada,is there and other way to do a diploma in Canada or nearby carrebean countries??.I have done MBBS from South asia.

This posting is supposed to be for IUHS, but the conversation was just getting too good. I stumbled upon it myself and would like to add taht Canada's health care is in need of a serious overhaul, from MDs to private practices to technicians, nurses, and equipment. Here is a detailed study done on about thirty countries by the Frasier Institute (a private, Canadian research group), How Good is Canadian Health Care?. You will see that Canada is not by any means the best. I am not taking a jab at Canadian standards or education, only trying to illuminate that things are not all okay here and that much needs to be done. The study does not illuminate all of the problems, especially from a smaller perspective.

It's like this: If you want to get into medical college here, you need a back-up plan because your chances are slim. The US by comparison admits about 50% of its applicants in total (SDN Med School Guide, 2008). Despite the difficulty in getting in, there are some problems that could be in large part assuaged by increasing the number of professionals. A local hospital employs IMGs in the Emergency room. How can Canada be such a big spender on health care per capita (third in the OECD) and have so many issues such as a shortage of physicians and equipment?

My GPA was low when I decided to take on medicine, and I did not even bother applying to Canadian schools. That may seem defeatist, but pessimism was not the only reason. Be that as it may, I am currently applying for schools in the Caribbean and Europe.

I grew up in the US and have lived in Canada for the last 9 years. I have heard all of the horror stories about IMGs driving cabs. I think not enough money is spent, or not spent the right way, as reagards Canadian health care. So many learned men and women already here that cannot practice, and so many more that leave because the price ain't right. It is not because the standards are so high. There is more politics and beauracracy involved than meets the eye. Where is all this money going? and why not privatize, at least in part, to draw back and keep the MDs? The current administration has vowed to privatize some of the system, but with a minority government it seems that things are grindign to a standstill in Parliament.

Any thoughts?

We should move this conversation elsewhere. People opening this thread hoping to find info on IUHS are going to be disappointed...

I won't comment about the lack of impartiality or the political orientation of this institute. I have all the good reasons to take with a lot of suspicion any "studies" they make. So keep in mind that they never publish outside of a political context.

I don't know for the canada itself, but I can talk for the Quebec however. 1) despite some adjustments we have to do, the people want to keep public and free our health care system. It's democracy. And people here consider our health care system as one of our biggest social richest. Wich it is. Do we have to make profound adjustments? Yes we do. Everybody here, including the politicians, know that. One of this adjustment, according to certain people including me, could be to open some private clinics for people who have money and who want to be treated faster...so it would low the pressure on the public system itself...meaning everybody could be treated faster. It's the more far some of us are ready to go. People are not foolish, and overall, they know what a private health care system means (before the sixties here). As said, yes we have a lot of things to improve, without being enough stupid to put down a such social and medical achievment.


2) yes some physicians go to practice outside the quebec or canada. But from what I know about the quebec ones, they come back home within a couple of years, so the government don't really fears about that. And quebecer physicians practicing in the US, quickly admit that the situation is not better in the US, probably worse regarding a lot of things.

Hey dude, open you eyes. In the US, we will have to treat a 90yo rich men who wants to live more years to play golf, meanwhile a child with a cardiac malformation won't be treated and will probably die because his parents are poor and have not paid their insurances.

Regarding the admission in schools of medicine, yes, the system sucks. And I admit it is largely elitist, overall in quebec.

And we could talk about France, where the system is mixt. Have you ever talked with patients from france? I do almost every day. Once again, I can tell you I am very lucky to be from quebec and to have a such health care system.

Xavier University School of Medicine, XUSOM, is located on the beautiful island of Aruba. Aruba is part of the affectionately termed "ABC" islands in the Dutch Caribbean, the other two islands are Bonaire and Curacao. The Island Government of Bonaire first CHARTERED XUSOM in November 2003. Some time later, the Minister of Education from Aruba visited our Bonaire Campus and was so impressed with our school that he volunteered to assist us with obtaining a CHARTER from his country, Aruba. The Minister was a man of his word, and in November 2004, Xavier University School of Medicine was granted not only a CHARTER, but also an opportunity for accreditation from the Island Government of Aruba.

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What does all this Canadian conversation and Xavier charter has ANTYHING to do with IUHS?

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