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Old 11-05-2004, 08:44 AM
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is IAU and IUHS Linked.??????

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is IAU and IUHS , St.kitts and Nevis connected in any way.

check out the IAU website home(www.iauniversity.com) , it states that the IAU traces its roots to UNIVERSAL MEDICAL COLLEGE , NEPAL(www.ucmsonline.com), which is a traditional medical college promoted by an indian group UNIVERSAL EMPIRE.(www.universal-empire.com) universal empire is also conducting the MBBS programme of IUHS, st.kitts and Nevis(www.iuhs.edu) through UEIMS(www.ueims.com) in cochin , india and knowledge village, dubai , UAE , although universal medical college , nepal has got no connection with IUHS. it is affiliated to a nepal govt university called Tribhuvan university (www.tribhuvan-university.edu.np).The website of IAU states the UNIVERSAL MEDICAL COLLEGE was started in 1996. but the first batch of MBBS came out in MAY-JUNE 2004. Are they offering 8 years MBBS course.?

so what i am saying is that , if IAU traces its roots to UNIVERSAL MEDICAL COLLEGE,NEPAL ,which is promoted by UNIVERSAL EMPIRE , doesnt it mean that IAU is also promoted by UNIVERSAL EMPIRE GROUP.

Also its interesting that all the students in first batch of IAU were transferred from IUHS to IAU and their tution was also transfered , i beleive. Isnt it enough to conclude that IAU is some way linked to IUHS and may be connected to UEIMS also .

The USA address of Universal Empire is Farmers branch , Texas as in their brochure. The IAU is also administrated from Texas.
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Re: is IAU and IUHS Linked.??????

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IAU - IUHS

is IAU and IUHS , St.kitts and Nevis connected in any way.

check out the IAU website home(www.iauniversity.com) , it states that the IAU traces its roots to UNIVERSAL MEDICAL COLLEGE , NEPAL(www.ucmsonline.com), which is a traditional medical college promoted by an indian group UNIVERSAL EMPIRE.(www.universal-empire.com) universal empire is also conducting the MBBS programme of IUHS, st.kitts and Nevis(www.iuhs.edu) through UEIMS(www.ueims.com) in cochin , india and knowledge village, dubai , UAE , although universal medical college , nepal has got no connection with IUHS. it is affiliated to a nepal govt university called Tribhuvan university (www.tribhuvan-university.edu.np).The website of IAU states the UNIVERSAL MEDICAL COLLEGE was started in 1996. but the first batch of MBBS came out in MAY-JUNE 2004. Are they offering 8 years MBBS course.?

so what i am saying is that , if IAU traces its roots to UNIVERSAL MEDICAL COLLEGE,NEPAL ,which is promoted by UNIVERSAL EMPIRE , doesnt it mean that IAU is also promoted by UNIVERSAL EMPIRE GROUP.

Also its interesting that all the students in first batch of IAU were transferred from IUHS to IAU and their tution was also transfered , i beleive. Isnt it enough to conclude that IAU is some way linked to IUHS and may be connected to UEIMS also .

The USA address of Universal Empire is Farmers branch , Texas as in their brochure. The IAU is also administrated from Texas.
Very good research and you've shown WHY students won't want to be involved with it. Why did IUHS transfer its students IAU?
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I think what your saying is totally absurd. I am currently interested in this school and went to visit it, and I think its a wonderful university. Kind professors, very good curriculum, and studnets from all over the U.S. They are not in any way related in IUHS. I will be attending IAU in January.

I also think its pretty FUNNY how liveten20 conveniently registered w/ Valuemd today just to post his/her insight which makes no sense at all.

This posting just made me realize how many people in this world are without a job!

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I think what your saying is totally absurd. I am currently interested in this school and went to visit it, and I think its a wonderful university. Kind professors, very good curriculum, and studnets from all over the U.S. They are not in any way related in IUHS. I will be attending IAU in January.

I also think its pretty FUNNY how liveten20 conveniently registered w/ Valuemd today just to post his/her insight which makes no sense at all.

This posting just made me realize how many people in this world are without a job!

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There is nothing absurd. His research is correct. UNIVERSAL EMPIRE owns all of them....the same one. CHeck the research and verify it for yourself.
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Re: Find something better to do

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I think what your saying is totally absurd. I am currently interested in this school and went to visit it, and I think its a wonderful university. Kind professors, very good curriculum, and studnets from all over the U.S. They are not in any way related in IUHS. I will be attending IAU in January.

I also think its pretty FUNNY how liveten20 conveniently registered w/ Valuemd today just to post his/her insight which makes no sense at all.

This posting just made me realize how many people in this world are without a job!

HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!
Hello ,

iam very sorry to see the personal insults about me and i am not interested to post a reply for that because this site is not meant for that , any way.let me be jobless , but i would be VERY THANKFULL IF U CAN POINT OUT WHERE I MADE THE MISTAKE , than just saying i said absurd.

Also please not that i didnt say IAU is bad or it doesnt have professors or any thing like that. i was just saying its linkages ,right. And its upto u to decide to join or not.And since you have visited the IAU campus , can you please reveal the number of kids in the first batch and where they came from.? i mean transfered from some school or freshers.? Also how many permanent professors there.?

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Heyyyy

I want to first say that in no way did i mean to insult anyone. I just felt that a lot of assumptions were being made.

When I visited the university, there were 10 permanent & 5 visiting professors. THe students were from all around the U.S.

Above all, IAU says it traces its roots to the Nepal university, which you clearly stated was not affiliated to IUHS in your first posting. No where on the website does it say that it is affiliated w/ IUHS or UEIMS for that matter.

Also it says that the nepal medical school was FOUNDED in 1996 not that classes commenced at that time, so who knows if your point there is valid.

I gathered some more information, and IAU is run by a completely by aa seperate management and administration than Nepal, and has no ties at all with IUHS

As far as tuition being transferred and issues like that, I couldn't find that anywhere on any of the websites you recommended, so if you coudl direct me to where you found that information....it would be of great help!

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Heyyyy

I want to first say that in no way did i mean to insult anyone. I just felt that a lot of assumptions were being made.

When I visited the university, there were 10 permanent & 5 visiting professors. THe students were from all around the U.S.

Above all, IAU says it traces its roots to the Nepal university, which you clearly stated was not affiliated to IUHS in your first posting. No where on the website does it say that it is affiliated w/ IUHS or UEIMS for that matter.

Also it says that the nepal medical school was FOUNDED in 1996 not that classes commenced at that time, so who knows if your point there is valid.

I gathered some more information, and IAU is run by a completely by aa seperate management and administration than Nepal, and has no ties at all with IUHS

As far as tuition being transferred and issues like that, I couldn't find that anywhere on any of the websites you recommended, so if you coudl direct me to where you found that information....it would be of great help!

Have a great day!


Hello ,

Thanks for the reply and i am happy that u are now in a friendly mood. dont consider me as an enemy and respond to me in a constructive way,

then into the point , what i said was if IAU and Universal medical college , nepal are linked , that means IAU and Universal empire are linked.Am i right.( universal medical college is promotec by UE)



second point , UE and IUHS are connected ,which means there is a minute possibility that IAu and IUHS are linked. right. if i can Proove that IUHS students were transfered to IAU along with their tution , isnt it solid enough to beleive that IUHS is connected to IAU.

to proove that IUHS students from UEIMS were trasfered to IAU along with their Tution ( which i am 100% sure ,now) , i need the help of "smals"see http://www.valuemd.com/ftopic26049.html. The worst school he is mentioning is nothing but IUHS-UEIMS. Else , let him say.I challenege him to proove himself that his earlier school was not IUHS -UEIMS and his tution to IUHS was not transfered to IAU.

consider this also , the USA address of IAU .

http://www.iauniversity.com/Contact.htm

2722 Hollandale Lane #400
Dallas, TX 75234 USA
Ph: 972 484 9700
: 1 888 440 4474 (US)
Fax: 972 484 4977

AND Please compare it with the address in the attached photograph of IUHS_UEIMS brochure.

if you got any friends in St.lucia , ask them if all the first batch students were transfered from IUHS-UEIMS or not.( not all , a few were freshers , but the majority.)

regarding that Nepal college and the year classes started , i am not sure what is goin on there and i just exclaimed are they offering 8 years MBBS. i beleive , that is a traditional govt. sponcered school with free seats for entrance candidates.

Thanks and good luck.
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"Mayo-Clinic of the Caribbean?"

Just reading this 'fluff' should warn you about the school.



http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/07-30h-04.asp

Off-Shore Medical Schools
India Daily, Special Correspondent
July 30, 2004



Health care is the primary issue of concern in most of the developed countries like US, Canada and UK. While these countries see an increase in the health-care-cost, they also face physician shortages. It is a known fact that when the economy is booming the demand for admission to medical schools dwindle. Canada is faced with a severe shortage of physicians in many provinces. They had not approved new medical schools for several years. Recently they have started building a few Medical schools and increase the seats in the existing ones. The story in US is similar. Because of the strong hold of professional organizations and because of the recent cuts in research funding many Universities are reluctant to expand the scope of their medical schools.

The cost of training a physician in the United states have become very significant and to a certain extend prohibitive. When you know that publicly funded Medical schools like University of Illinois have recently increased the tuition substantially to offset their cost we will have a clear understanding of the problem. It has become practically impossible to graduate with a medical degree without incurring a loan liability of a quarter of a million dollars.

Because of this, a number of offshore medical schools have popped up in recent years. In some ways these schools have proved that they can provide quality medical education at a lower cost and offer the opportunity to the students who had been barred from admission to US & Canadian medical schools. This has raised concerns in the minds of the Medical Educators of the developed countries. Should Medical Schools bear the indirect cost of medical research? How much free service the Medical schools should provide to the community and at what cost the prospective students? One thing is very clear. If the new graduates incur such big liabilities as a result of their education, it is clear why the physician-part of the health care cost will not go down.

A question is asked in many circles. Whether the offshore schools are contributing to a surplus of physicians? The answer is clearly a resounding “NO”. Let us take for example the number of residency slots available in the US in comparison to the number of graduate pumped out each year. When you look at the numbers, it is clear the excess of residency slots are required to provide healthcare to the US community and that these have to filled by “Foreign Medical Graduates” or the “Offshore graduates”. Considering the fact that the migration of physicians from India and Pakistan is greatly reduced after the September-11, One have to look for graduates from elsewhere to fill the gap. The growing economy of Russia and Korea is causing a decrease in the supply of medical graduate from that country. What is left is Philippines and Israel. This is the gap the Offshore graduates are filling.

Now the question is whether the new offshore schools could keep up the standards in medical education? The answer is mixed. When there is an opportunity it is likely that some schister would want to make money on that. That is why it is important to study the structure and function of these schools, before one would venture to invest the years of training and the associated expenses.

There are medical schools in the Caribbean basin that provide high quality education comparable to that of US schools. Some are very big and graduate up to a thousand students a year. Some others thrive because they have accepted an ethical responsibility of providing quality care with less number of graduates per year. Since all these schools are for profit, the ones with small enrollments are having a tough time to attract investors to buy off the schools. However, it is cleat that some of these schools like “International American University College of Medicine” are doing a superb job in bringing up the standards of the Caribbean Medical Schools. It is simple fact that as the schools compete with each other, the only one’s that will survive are the ones which would provide high quality education at the lowest possible cost.

We had an opportunity to study International American University College of Medicine. This is a school that provide both 4-year MD program for those who hold a bachelor’s degree and a six-year MD program to those who just completed twelve years of High school. By being selective in its admission policy, diligent in providing services to the students and keeping up with the most modern curricular approaches like problem based learning with early introduction to clinical settings, this school is setting high standards for medical Education in the Caribbean basin. It is to be noted that only recently the American Medical schools have adopted these latest curricular changes promulgated by McMasters in Canada and adopted by Harward and other schools. This school is locate in a small island 25 miles long and 16 miles wide with a natural beauty that is not surpassed by many. Castris, in St. Lucia had been known as a tourist spot for some time. View Fort, tucked away from the hustle and bustle of tourism, in the other end of the island is the seat of the International American University. This town is blessed with an international airport where big jets bring travelers from Europe and US on a daily basis. IAU.COM is located in the heart of the town in a modern building which is fully air-conditioned with modern classrooms with all the audiovisual equipment, and the necessary laboratories and learning resource center.

An interview with the Executive Dean, Dr. **** T. Cherian made it clear that the goal of the school is to be the “Mayo-Clinic of the Caribbean” in the very near future. With this in mind, the school has limited its admission to a maximum of 60 students per admission cycle and to provide clinical exposure to the students from the second week of their education. The school able to boast that most of its teachers are clinician and that their student to teacher ration is in keeping with the US standards.

The student is given a crash course in medical ethics that culminates in a “white Coat Ceremony” denoting the acceptance of the student into a noble profession which demands life-long self education and diligence. You can see students huddled in the group rooms trying to solve the problems that they are given to solve. It is a great site to see students studying in the library late at night and yet be ready for class in the morning. The learning resource center is equipped with computers with a variety of medical education programs like “Slice of Life”. As you walk in to the building, your computer is automatically connected to the internet. Now a days, the internet has become a major source of information for medical students. They also use the internet to communicate to the outside world.

The administration is always at the beck and call of the students to solve any problems they are encountering. Mr. Syam Kumar, the Operations manager is convinced that the students should be given every assistance so that they can concentrate on the studies and studies alone. The students are housed n comfortable homes and apartments near the school. The school is launching a big housing project which will be completed in 10 months, says Syam.

Dr. Pramanik, the professor of Biochemistry says that the Executive Dean is fully invested in bringing p the best of teaching in each of the teachers. The objective based approach in lectures and examinations makes sure that the graduates from this school would easily complete the USMLE examinations and would be ready to take on any post-graduate specialty training. Dr. Mohite, a neurosurgeon was explaining the most complicated of connections in the brain in such understandable manner that other physicians in the island seek permission to attend his classes.

The Medical students and faculty members are actively involved in providing services to the local public. The Direct of Health for the island, Dr. King is excited about the prospectus of starting research laboratories in high-tech clinics under the auspicious of the Medical School. This is expected to bring many patients from the neighboring islands to the medical school for tertiary care.

It is clear that the management of the School housed in Dallas Texas is keen on setting up a high quality medical education program in the island. The School is listed by WHO and is approved by FAIMER and listed in I-med directory thereby making the graduates eligible to appear for the USMLE / PLAB examinations and get licensed in most of the countries including US, Canada and UK.
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sorry , i think the photograph was not up-loaded.

see the photographs . these is the back page of UEIMS brochure.
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i beleive liveten is true

As i said earlier in the same forum answering sandpat in another posting , i know many students at IAU , St.Lucia.Of the first batch comprising of 14 or 15 students , around 10-11 are transfered students from IUHS satellite campus UEIMS , Cochin , India.
And i strongly beleive , the tution fees payed was also transfered from IUHS to IAU.
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