Hey why are you transferring from IAU?

according to his post in the AUC form he stated the following:

"They make you go back and take 5th semester because that will put you over the >50% requirement. Basically, you can't just take the last two years... you have to do that, plus one basic science semester. Therefore, you have done more than 2 of the 4 years of medical education with them.

I'm am trying to transfer to obtain greenbook rotations. I realize that I still would have licensing issues in states like Texas and I still would not be able to work in states like California. At this point, I am not willing to gamble with IAU anymore, I think that's more of a problem in the future not having greenbook rotations -- when you compare it with having to show transfer history to a licensing board.

I'm sure someone else will ask why didn't I go to a better school/plan ahead/ etc. The answer is I just didn't know. I hope posts like this will help others. I'm just glad I have a good back-up with nursing. It's not the best, but I make twice my resident's salary while working only 3 days a week."

this post can be found here:
http://www.valuemd.com/american-univ...-transfer.html

skipper

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If you fail at AUC, SGU, or Ross why not transfer to SMU, if you fail at SMU, why not try another SMU.

The choice for me was simple, I want to keep NY and TX open for possible licensure. I would like to attend a school with greenbook options to increase my chances for licensure and residency. For residency, you never know where you'll end up and with the majority of positions available on the east coast, it would be better decision to attend a school with at least NY approval. For Texas, you need greenbook for cores (and electives if under the 130 minimum of medical curriculum.) I've been notified from other VMD members that having board certification after you are all done could bypass the greenbook rule in Texas, not sure though.

IAU does not have:

1. approval from any state.
2. all the greenbook (ACGME) clinical rotations.

So far, IAU has only Internal Medicine and Family Practice available for rotations that qualify as ACGME. We are missing pediatrics, surgery, psychiatry, and obstetrics / gynecology. Many states require at least the cores to be greenbook. These 48 weeks of "cores" make up the 3rd year of medical school (ideally) and are what is needed to take Step Two (greenbook or not.) The last 36 or so weeks make up the 4th and final year while you are busy interviewing to match into residency.

It's already hard to get residency as a foreign graduate, imagine trying to do it coming from a lower-tier school without any state's approval. Several people think that passing USMLE will make everything all better. I've broke into the 90's for step one and haven't been able to successfully transfer anywhere. Here's a list of programs I've contacted and got denied for various reasons including "not taking credits from IAU/carribean schools, must have MCATS/prereqs, no spots available this year, or not taking advanced standing transfer students:"


Drexel (PA)
New York Medical College
Tulane (LA)
Marshall (WV)
George Washington (DC)
Northeastern Ohio (has a crazy $600 3 day interview with videotaped doctor-patient set up)
Indiana (IN residents only)
Brown (RI residents only)
Chicago Medical School
Mercer (GA residents only)
University of Vermont
University of Wisconsin
East Carolina University (NC residents only)
University of Wisconsin (WI residents only)
Columbia University (2nd year only)
Mount Sinai
All 5th Pathway programs


Ross
St. George (SGU)
Saba
MUA
St. Mathews (SMU)

The last option I have is AUC (which has already told me that if given admissions, I would still have to repeat 5th semester on the island) which I still have pending paperwork to turn in for completion of the application. I also have an interview with AUA next week. With either choice, I'll still have to file additional paperwork (~30 forms) for Texas and there's 99.9% chance of no licensure in California since I completed some of my medical education and at non-approved school. I didn't care about California anyways.

Not that there's anything really wrong with IAU, they have been trying to improve all the years. They have added Baton Rouge as a ACGME clinical option and have invited NY for state approval last year. I am not aware of another school that has attempted NY approval recently in the Carribean. But IMO, I think students should not use short cuts and try SGU, Ross, AUC, Saba, AUA, MUA (probably in that order) if you wanted to go the Caribbean route and maintain open options for licensure in the U.S. (SGU, Ross and AUC are 50-state approved). Or go California approved school like Saddam University Saddam College of Medicine in Iraq

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Greenbook rotations? Click here for Sree's post
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Copy/paste might have been easier...

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Successful Transfer [?]

Greenbook rotations? Click here for Sree's post
State Approvals? Click here
IAU Forum Moderator

The question is if you knew all this, why did you even bother going to IAU in the first place?

Skipper

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Formerly known as "AssyrianSkipper"

PGY-1 Internal Medicine
Goal, not to kill anyone during my first month of residency.

No, I cannot help you get a residency.

President and Dean of--
Skipper's Medical Univeristy of the Dutch West Indies--SMU-DWI
Apply Now.....Get an MD in 6 Weeks....

If you fail at AUC, SGU, or Ross why not transfer to SMU, if you fail at SMU, why not try another SMU.

I already answered that in the post you copied from the AUC post, I just didn't know about individual state recognition until my first year of medical school when I signed up for VMD. I only heard of SGU because my sister went there for a year before re-starting med school in the U.S. I didn't even understand ACGME clinicals until 5th semester. I was misled in thinking that all I had to do was pass USMLE to obtain licensure in any state, except California. I figured a school with their office in Texas would know Texas's law. Even then, I was told after a few years of practice and/or doing the bluebook/umbrella clinical method, I could obtain licensure in any state. But now I, along with any misinformed IAU representative, knows better.

I also thought IAU would get their approval from NY last year during their visit when I was there, I made up my mind back then if they didn't get the approval I would try to transfer to a school with at least NY approval. I should add my fiance is a pediatrician in NYC and my RN license (which is also under Office of Professions, New York Education Department which licenses MD's) is in NY, so I have multiple reasons for trying to stay in NYC.

People always have different reasons, I'm not the first to transfer out, probably won't be the last. I just want to make it clear I don't regret going to IAU (some faculty were great, library was adequate, hours were good, etc) I do regret not researching Carribean medical schools like I was advised to do from friends and family. I kinda based decisions off it being a family-owned school (can't screw over on children right?), friends at IAU, costs, duration of time on the island, admissions, and wishful thinking.

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UTA '05 BSN-RN [Wyckoff Vent-floor]
Step One [X]IAU's first 90+
Successful Transfer [?]

Greenbook rotations? Click here for Sree's post
State Approvals? Click here
IAU Forum Moderator

I think I should add if IAU had greenbook cores and at least NY approval, me and several others would not attempt to transfer out.

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UTA '05 BSN-RN [Wyckoff Vent-floor]
Step One [X]IAU's first 90+
Successful Transfer [?]

Greenbook rotations? Click here for Sree's post
State Approvals? Click here
IAU Forum Moderator

Thanks for posting IAUStudent06

No problem, and good luck.

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Greenbook rotations? Click here for Sree's post
State Approvals? Click here
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Now I was trying to follow the things in ur siggy about the rotations, but get lost a bit. So even though you have finished ur Step 1 and stuff ur not going into clinical rotations with IAU by choice or because they don't have any?