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Old 02-29-2008, 02:09 PM
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Greenbook rotations?

Do IAU students have the oppurtunity of doing ALL rotations greenbook? Let me clarify that as all CORE rotations being greenbook? And what rotations will be at what hospitals? This is my number one concern, as the greenbook rotation issue is very crucial.
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Based on your school's website, you have JPH in Chicago, Harbor in Baltimore and some other hospital in Louisiana which I'm not familiar with.

JPH is green for family medicine and nothing else, though the hospital (and maybe even your school) will tell you that it's Green for everything.

Harbor is a great hospital and it's greenbook for IM and Ob/Gyn (through the U of Maryland). However, not all schools have an affiliation with the Ob/Gyn department of that hospital. SMU is the only one I know for sure that does.

The Louisiana hospital is green for family only as far as I can see.

You're out of luck in terms of finding Green rotations for Peds, Surgery and possibly Ob/Gyn. But, it might not be the end of the world. What states are you looking to practice in?
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i dont really have any particular state right now however, as long as I at least have my cores all greenbook, then this keeps my options open for a variety of states. Is there a way to setup my own greenbook rotations through an agency or anything?
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Greenbook Electives

You forgot Psych also Sree...

Anyone know what states require greenbook electives in addition to the cores?
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Texas requires all rotations to be greenbook, cores and electives.
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Greenbook Electives

Alright, besides TX and PA, any other states requiring greenbook electives?
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Hello there,

So they say that BIG 4 Caribbean school are 50 Stats practice schools.
What about their green book rotation, for example like Saba and AUC do they have all green book rotation?

What if you don't get green book rotation? Am I out of luck for Cali residency and license if you graduate from the so call big 4 schools.

Appreciate your help.
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Hello there,

So they say that BIG 4 Caribbean school are 50 Stats practice schools.
What about their green book rotation, for example like Saba and AUC do they have all green book rotation?

What if you don't get green book rotation? Am I out of luck for Cali residency and license if you graduate from the so call big 4 schools.

Appreciate your help.
First, who do you think the four big schools are? Generally, people think its SGU, Ross, Saba, and AUC (supposedly, all clinicals are ACGME with AUC?, not positive though) in which case you should be ok if you research a little.

Rule 1. You must attend a California approved school or else you will NEVER be eligible for licensure or obtain residency or conduct clinicals in California.
Welcome to the Medical Board of California - International Medical Schools Disapproved by the State of California

unless you sneak in though the VA system (possibly & unlikely, i'm not sure on this and wouldn't put all my eggs into this basket)
http://www.valuemd.com/st-matthews-u...-grads-41.html

Rule 2. Clinical rotations can be "blue book", in other words any core or elective can be done if the hospital is "green" for Family Practice. This is where the term "umbrella" is coined, since family practice encompasses a variety of things.
http://www.valuemd.com/clinical-rota...rotations.html

This is used by not-so-difficult states also (especially Illinois, leading to all schools using JPH in Chicago for ever rotation, hoping students obtain licensure under the "umbrella/blue book" rotations, since JPH is a ghetto but "green" FP hospital)

BUT (for california) RULE #1 HAS TO BE FOLLOWED FIRST FOR ALL CLASSWORK, TRANSFER INTO/OUT OF AN NON-APPROVED SCHOOL, DURING ANY TIME CAN NOT BE ALLOWED, unless you repeat the course or clinical at an approved institution.
http://www.valuemd.com/st-matthews-u...smu-grads.html
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I am very concerned that technically IAU only has 2 greenbook cores, can we try to arrange your own? I spoke to a few of the senior students that are in the process of starting clinicals or are just passing step 1, i think a few want to transfer out to ross or other larger institutions after step 1 that acually have decent some or all green book rotations. I dont know what to do, I am already in IAU, but applied to other schools like AUA, MUA, Sint Eustatius, St. James, they all have some decent greenbook clinicals. I dont know if I should start IAU or just say yes to one of the others and go there instead. I just need some insight from some of the seniors and how they are tackling this issue at this crucial point after step 1, I am sure there not going to just take 2 core greenbooks and be satisfied with that and probably will have problems being licensed in alot of states.
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