First, if you are already at IAU, it is better to concentrate and score high on Step One via studying hard in each course, then integrating your last semester with kaplan and question banks such as UsmleWorld (UW). No decent school will accept you as a transfer AND take credits for any basic science courses already completed, you'll have to start all over. A few states will still allow you to work without all greenbook rotations, so hit that hurdle when you get to it.

There may be a way to transfer to another Caribbean medical school such as Ross (most infamous, especially after the Devry buy-out -- I met so many Ross-transfers during kaplan and ICM -- I think that was the only thing I learned in ICM). I have already looked into this, but in my case, I was asked to STILL repeat their ICM in Miami. I am not willing to redo ICM for 14k in Miami so I have scheduled a meeting/interview to discuss options with Ross. Keep in mind, transferring into 50-state school will NOT make you automatically eligible in all 50 states (most notably, California).

I personally know of one who transferred to AUA and another to St. E, both from Spartan (St. E is not NY-approved, but has loans at least for clinical years, supposedly)

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very good responce. I understand what the situation is now. You brought up a good point that even if we do transfer to Ross or the top 3, we still are NOT eligible for all 50 states as the basic sciences are not done there, I am just looking for good, reliable and available clinicals that are majority greenbook. I havnt actually started basic sciences yet at IAU but I am scheduled for the September semester so thats why I am looking at all my options now and really evaluating before I jump into anything. I talked to the Sint Eustatius clinical department and they supposdely do have decent clinicals and do have all greenbook cores and electives but in limited amounts as expected, but its doable and they do have loans through Teri and Drs Choice for the clinical part also.

I just really wish IAU administration would give this part of their medical program more importance and hopefully obtain more ACGME rotations.

As far I could read, Texas requires all CORES to be ACGME-certified, but not ALL electives.

Please read form J on Physician Checklist of Supplemental Documentation and Important Information

It basically says (section 163.1)

1. 130 week minimum
2. Basic Science to have anatomy, biochemistry, biology, physiology, microbiology, immunology, pathology, pharmacology, and neuroscience.
3. Clinical Science Cores - IM, OB/GYN, FP, psych, peds, and surgery.

On the first two pages, ACGME is required on cores:

1. Cores must be ACGME.
2. MUST BE SAME SPECIALTY OR SUB-SPECIALTY
   1. Example: IM in ACGME-IM hospital NOT Geriatrics in ACGME-Internal Med Hospital.
   2. Same institute, not affiliated site w/o accreditation

1. Electives above and beyond the 130 weeks, do not need to be ACGME certified.
2. BUT ELECTIVES USED TO MEET THE 130 WEEKS (to me this meant = BASIC SCIENCE + CORE CLINICALS + ELECTIVES) MINIMUM ARE SUBJECT TO BE ACGME CERTIFIED IN SAME SPECIALTY OR SUB-SPECIALTY.

1. OR if you can provided documentation you rotated with U.S. kids (LCME) at the same facility and staff from their medical school, then it doesn't have to be ACGME.

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How many states can you actually practice in if you are a graduate of IAU?

In theory, you should be able to get licensed in all states, except for California (must have ALL work pre-approved) and Kansas (15 year rule or pre-approval like SABA) as long as you meet all the other requirements (pass USMLE within appropriate timeframes and attempts, ACGME cores and possibly electives, school listing on IMED, etc.)

Use the link on my signiture to verify the state requirements you wish to work at. If any are outdated, I'll re-link them if possible... or you can always google "(enter your state) medical board" and search for the laws/forms or contact them directly.

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Under Illinois License, it states:

8) Any applicant for licensure to practice medicine in all of its branches who has been unsuccessful in 5 examinations (any component, part or step of the examinations accepted by the Division as set forth in subsection (a)(4)), conducted in this State or any other jurisdiction, shall be deemed ineligible for further examination and/or licensure until the Division is in receipt of proof that the applicant has completed, subsequent to his/her fifth failure:

Do they mean that you need to pass all the exams in 5 attempts or you cannot fail more than 5 attempts all steps included for a licence? Does this rule applicable even when the time of endorsement from a different state? I have tried calling the state board and cannot get through. thank yu for your help

According to the form provided by Illinois, there are a few factors for USMLE...

1. You must pass all parts of USMLE within a 7 year period. The clock starts clicking the moment you PASS an exam (regardless if it's step one or two)

2. You cannot be unsuccessful for more than 5 examinations (failed attempts, in total) which is different from some states who limit the failure of each component (Step one, CK, etc).

There are 3 ways to get around this, which is laid on this site: PART 1285 MEDICAL PRACTICE ACT OF 1987 : Sections Listing
However, I know several people who didn't match this past week mainly due to a combination of being an IMG, multiple failures of step components, aiming too high for competitive residencies and applying only to certain competitive geographical locations.

3. Different states will have different rules and will not simply allow you to receive a license based on the fact another state approved you.

1. With that said, it should be easier if you have worked for a while (2-3 years, again depends on each state) and meet all the other requirements of that state to obtain a full, unrestricted license.
2. Keep in mind, just because someone receives a residency position (physician-in-training license) in a state does NOT mean they will receive a full, unrestricted license. Texas is one of those states known for placing restrictions and/or requiring additional training in order to obtain a regular license. I don't think Illinois is as strict, comparatively speaking...

I can not attach the form for Illinois because it is too large. So here is the link: State of Illinois - Physician Licensure Applications

Click on the first link "Physician - Licensure by Examination"
Read Page 2 and Page 4 carefully on the PDF.

Use this until you get through to the state board. Please confirm with them directly.

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Thank you for the information.

I just spoke to the Medical license Board with S.D at 217-557-3209 and she confirmed that it will be total of 5 failures and not attempts.

I updated the post to include your information. 5 attempts (in total) would be too little considering there are two parts of Step two, meaning there are 4 required attempts anyways (Step One, Step Two CK, Step Two CS, and Step Three) so in theory you could only fail once in any component.

Here's a pdf "omega's" made with each states general information, contact numbers, years of training requirement, and ACGME requirement.

http://www.valuemd.com/state-medical...nts-state.html

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Here's an updated list of states and their lists:
U.S. National Committee on Foreign Medical Education and Accreditation – approved foreign accrediting agencies: National Committee on Foreign Medical Education and Accreditation (NCFMEA)

California Approved and Disapproved- Welcome to the Medical Board of California - Medical Schools

New York Clinical Approval (Form 2CC)- NYS Medicine Application Forms

Indiana Approval, Disapproved, Questionable(2nd to last pgf form) - PLA: Medical Licensing Board of Indiana

Kansas - KSBHA -

Texas Disapproved - THECB > Academic Affairs and Research > Private Colleges and Institutes > Fraudulent Institutions
Texas Approved - Substantial Equivalence
Physician Applicants

Oregan - Disapproved
www.ndbomex.com/DisapprovedMedSchools.pdf

North Dakata - Disapproved
http://www.ndbomex.com/DisapprovedMedSchools.pdf

Michigan – Disapproved
www.michigan.gov/documents/Non-accreditedSchools_78090_7.pdf

Alabama – Disapproved/Requires more documents (bottom of page)
Alabama Board of Medical Examiners

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